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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:326762 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Gerd M=C3=B6llmann >> Cc: Pip Cet , Helmut Eller >> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2024 19:12:05 +0100 >>=20 >> Pip Cet via "Emacs development discussions." >> writes: >>=20 >> > Does anyone remember what our conclusion was wrt >> > -fno-omit-frame-pointer? I seem to remember there was a patch to MPS = to >> > avoid relying on setjmp() to save all registers, but I'd still be >> > happier if we enabled that for all MPS builds, since we don't know >> > whether our MPS has the patch. >>=20 >> I'm using -fno-omit-frame-pointer, but I don't remember why. I think >> Helmut said something or so (in CC). > > It's because of this: > > https://github.com/Ravenbrook/mps/pull/38 > > And also see this discussion: > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2024-09/msg00132.html Right, thanks!