From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Pluim Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Interactive guide for new users Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 12:52:13 +0200 Message-ID: References: <875z8ortot.fsf@gkayaalp.com> <83lfhjkq0r.fsf@gnu.org> <8620B5CD-CA92-46BF-80A8-DBE7052F4CA6@gmail.com> <83d02re2uk.fsf@gnu.org> <87blibtfzu.fsf@gkayaalp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8626"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Gregory Heytings , casouri@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?utf-8?B?R8O2a3R1xJ8=?= Kayaalp Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 14 12:54:12 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kHm7g-0002AR-8a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2020 12:54:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49958 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kHm7f-0007DX-9w for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2020 06:54:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40148) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kHm5r-0004s1-Vx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2020 06:52:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wm1-x32d.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::32d]:37172) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kHm5q-0003rQ-BI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2020 06:52:19 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wm1-x32d.google.com with SMTP id a9so10772976wmm.2 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 2020 03:52:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=y7EUrc7X+Nm0P0JVXYx4RW5BhNzlzMV/2McGJR4zgfI=; b=F7D43j8Tsel9iyByrgr/Swhmlr5k6Gv3elV2RShv1E4gjYSOGw/UnzJgzpCdeVrzfl Tl/MOEfGgR6b6UUSfin6OLKIkpFFvX1AhqDQr2NeveZ8TW77BXSsFdv7QTTRz8mKA71P 1YLsMlz1NMC0TfcDZ8myvnRwZTkBherRXGjfYNCdEudPEYRzhCDdGpErsVVFVK8FapGJ aJAWeFAm+bqZTsFX5UcqvuFzTjsrElMHe9AZWWMKenXC/j/w084OvhNpiXOdNgejnK6U ycHFIX1nAMTR64PhTb0+m2NN5jg+ZbQ6gXosYRXmPYcSIWJyhyxLsJoet2LzNN/oZNTe sfGQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references :gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=y7EUrc7X+Nm0P0JVXYx4RW5BhNzlzMV/2McGJR4zgfI=; b=bVHOsTtvWJNTUlVqlELrCgpLORTASg52s08CcgLmt1h9WTw87cEU4iLvl5usNmemN7 HkLMaCdswT+ddqisty7ZIGOQhMhX9ty3d3EuwtM5ybcqdrBp30BOMeqUvPHgeKm1VRlM MHj+WRgbweRjFLO3o846GSFHQsdcdZCgYoPLPRg/3S6YQfprvHKr929zgztf+MuLaVJd ffnhAAYhHv3f03K3Zku/+vsqUpyFYY33vj2HPShDe/p3pcjFKW9Rj8Lp4lXcBDuE20OM Wy5ibfeV2Hwu0W/eZB/KOsmiM3Ok7YpMFemYgpEwNhhc5OA91m0lRDMYlaKR1ty45Lku 1zHw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5303yEkD1wxkpqeE8PUaeSMT7XojsYg+36BhCW05my00i9rerCpL SsCvh0eA9VaHWDrB5covKSg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwnzim6ncC3CWicnZNLwVPOQ7ADIwIR5VI5k5//htgXRdNen0JClYeXvvbg0hKks9wmFJA4oQ== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:6a08:: with SMTP id f8mr14816324wmc.151.1600080735422; Mon, 14 Sep 2020 03:52:15 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from rpluim-mac ([2a01:e34:ecfc:a860:5055:7f7f:92a2:59ec]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o16sm18867227wrp.52.2020.09.14.03.52.13 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 14 Sep 2020 03:52:14 -0700 (PDT) Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes In-Reply-To: <87blibtfzu.fsf@gkayaalp.com> (=?utf-8?B?IkfDtmt0dcSf?= Kayaalp"'s message of "Sat, 12 Sep 2020 14:02:29 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::32d; envelope-from=rpluim@gmail.com; helo=mail-wm1-x32d.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255628 Archived-At: >>>>> On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 14:02:29 +0300, G=C3=B6ktu=C4=9F Kayaalp said: >>> SCREEN 8: Thank you. Your choices have been saved in Emacs' configu= ration >>> file ~/.emacs.d/init.el (or ~/.emacs ?). >> What do we do here wrt XDG preferences? G=C3=B6ktu=C4=9F> Might be a good idea to default to XDG dirs if that= =E2=80=99s what Emacs G=C3=B6ktu=C4=9F> community wants to encourage. But because a lot of t= ext out there will G=C3=B6ktu=C4=9F> say ~/.emacs or ~/.emacs.d/init.el, the file name sho= uld be made very G=C3=B6ktu=C4=9F> clear. We could default 'user-init-file' to "$XDG_CONFIG_HOME/emacs/init.el" for people who have no existing .emacs or .emacs.d, I guess (currently we default to ~/.emacs), although I=CA=BCd be happier if we used "~/.emacs.d/init.el", as that leaves the choice of whether to use XDG later up to the user (and Emacs will create ~/.emacs.d anyway). I=CA=BCm in no way suggesting that we stop reading ~/.emacs, though. Robert