From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "John Wiegley" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: On the subject of Git, Bazaar, and the future of Emacs development Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 19:38:26 +0000 Organization: New Artisans LLC Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1364326720 5716 80.91.229.3 (26 Mar 2013 19:38:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 19:38:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Richard Stallman To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 26 20:39:07 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UKZi1-0006Zg-Gb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:39:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50961 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UKZhd-0007Ee-KG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 15:38:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49876) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UKZhZ-0007EK-MA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 15:38:34 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UKZhY-0002q9-OX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 15:38:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ve0-f169.google.com ([209.85.128.169]:60350) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UKZhY-0002q4-KI; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 15:38:32 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ve0-f169.google.com with SMTP id d10so2758715vea.0 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 12:38:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:from:to:cc:subject:organization:mail-followup-to :date:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=7bMlxK4IFo4eJN+wlGNlpXCAEBq+/6wKEWW3XVhKK1o=; b=Aum8+KrrrDwOlJUh1mA0ROmmYQBYHWu2tttQENEWBVYPNhiaWqg2rfc/i4K0wppJ8E cNxh5O740jHiOgFtIBvBxoATFSYRRHGj1OOvNyqddZRD4fhzTSxuZaDmPrCYq8tW4wf/ 4Z/6rRVAjbsgjpSUXBs68ks/7+WSoT+ORC4Z3EsuMH3DhsCyVF1pq6rCr4fcxc0ZNTPN kl09N8vZjNsAF+Cdw8wA0XWpE4SLpd7VdjLho6lhQitdPCE/Pmhwr/Xrgfpfo92cQ2IX yc6wBBXpjRgym5ARcQe6lFpnL+0N+aZSclmEF+cC6iY4Xh9/p7gQ9v8kwl9A7TVWasLG MXsg== X-Received: by 10.220.221.210 with SMTP id id18mr4475887vcb.74.1364326711610; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 12:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from Hermes.local (cpc11-mort5-2-0-cust73.19-2.cable.virginmedia.com. [80.235.133.74]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id xu4sm25871216vdb.11.2013.03.26.12.38.29 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 26 Mar 2013 12:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by Hermes.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 767AB9178EC; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 19:38:27 +0000 (GMT) Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Richard Stallman User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.3 (darwin) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.128.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:158242 Archived-At: Hello all, We have often debated the merits of Git vs. Bazaar, and which one the GNU project should use for Emacs development. I think now is an appropriate time to revisit this decision. My main reason for bringing this up again is that Bazaar development has effectively stalled. There are major bugs which have been in their bug-tracker for years now -- bugs affecting Emacs development, such as the ELPA repository -- whach have been ignored all this time. There are also other factors, but this one alone is significant enough that I think it justifies us switching over to Git all by itself. So, to Richard as the undisputed Czar of all things Emacs: can we now, pretty please, switch to Git? :) I'm happy to coordinate whatever resources it takes to make a full and faithful conversion from Bzr happen as soon as possible. Yours, John Wiegley