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[76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 74sm39499370pfs.33.2016.02.22.17.05.43 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 22 Feb 2016 17:05:43 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 8C44213142F96; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 17:05:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87r3g4js64.fsf@gmail.com> (Oleh Krehel's message of "Mon, 22 Feb 2016 23:28:51 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) Mail-Followup-To: Oleh Krehel , Kaushal Modi , Michael Albinus , Stefan Monnier , Drew Adams , Emacs developers X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::234 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:200515 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>>>> Oleh Krehel writes: >> +1 >>=20 >> I wholeheartedly agree to that. > +1 from me as well. I recall recently Richard proposed that we vote on so= me > new isearch feature. Should we vote on renaming `cl-caddr' -> `caddr' as > well? > Here's a list of `cl-' stuff that I like to use, which I think wouldn't > bring confusion without a `cl-' prefix: `cl-find-if', `cl-remove-if-not', > `cl-incf', `cl-position-if', `cl-caadr', `cl-rotatef', > `cl-destructuring-bind'. +100 from me. I deeply dislike the cl- prefix, especially for common things like incf and loop. It's both excessive, and annoying to program with. I would like to see prefix-less aliases for many of the functions in cl-lib. Let's create a module cl-intf that requires cl-lib and provides those alias= es; and then allow cl-intf to be used in core, so long as we ensure that cl-intf never shadows existing Emacs Lisp functions also in core. =2D-=20 John Wiegley GPG fingerprint =3D 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2 --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGcBAEBCgAGBQJWy7BiAAoJEMFE2PTxn+YwL+IMAIl4ApfExZIEnf/yvalcA6hi a7VY2OcENC40k3sCZEbRfCZobpA3eZFi4QJKOoy9hKTDCzYhcLtg1ttmXqpvuC5F t/jR44xLVxGoo6lov6NWLSsticoSVmy1n0kcovO1EuLgn95iSVF+5Ztzqkw7Dy99 RRbSsz7mUthut7VzSVxScpj9mRoFRZa2xApC3MBcLGJfB5Co1GhH4yZMZdgwHFwi YYjNqIRZpAGe6LxDjeSjeiTNt+ThTbpHcwei/tqMe7q9DgG5cm43oV8qWkCbElzk f+uzuRsO8HUJNRVNwYxf6UXRu1/uJU1EColCShNQ22LCc43aM+d7PqU3nqJnbxdj Zl4yQS0csAb3UmfGOcFg0Q+raXbmAXsSLN7JLQpwwS+4PJZvzvzatwtQ+DefANse zolcWkNneMsyaVophXQNW2jekmDmVUPAYuD0A1wa8PTzrMPn4miX2VeWHeYPjl99 YxFRz6fFAobofPP1BFVPJYmSVWjscA+Gj5qNCXDY4A== =VfvY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--