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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255173 Archived-At: >>>>> On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 09:58:18 +0300, Eli Zaretskii said: >> From: Caio Henrique >> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 22:38:18 -0300 >> Cc: Ricardo Wurmus , Gregory Heytings , >> Drew Adams , emacs-devel@gnu.org >> >> > 4) I see a redo added in the menu-bar unconditionally... should we do >> > the same in the toolbar unconditionally? >> >> I tried adding it to the toolbar just to see how it would look like: Eli> Thanks, but please add a help-echo text for that button. The menu Eli> item perhaps could do without it, but not the tool-bar button. (enabling and looking at the toolbar for the first time in a decade) Why have we got separate 'open new file' and 'open existing file' buttons? You can open an existing one from the dialog that 'open new file' pops up. Robert