From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "John Wiegley" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Adding use-package to core Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2022 10:46:42 -0800 Message-ID: References: <838rkels13.fsf@gnu.org-NGltIw7----9> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27292"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (darwin) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , xenodasein@tutanota.de To: xenodasein--- via "Emacs development discussions." Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 13 19:47:22 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ouI0n-0006n5-RH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2022 19:47:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ouI0O-0007kl-NN; Sun, 13 Nov 2022 13:46:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ouI0L-0007kS-03 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2022 13:46:53 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ouI0J-0001Gj-4m; Sun, 13 Nov 2022 13:46:52 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:References:Date:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=oWqKNYdkdQwClYMvtkPqG9kxqPlieVtijS1UExDINKY=; b=lxePB2nVdmMMhSt8SuX5 rjvKVKip8WZ6TVcWvZp3DDGFV8Gw4Tn+7e92hDR+z2F+qjxJ3eQaFEtuaY8vCuyTgdIMBBDy8/3Z3 BcmQoO4QFIAkYthpmMcL+PLPWgOqFrKVyxFblgjlxgnRm1SZnP/1xniQPN2hQPS3seEGZz+8EPuP5 oeWmhPg6xdLI8bqwEVnH/aL+ZhfM8UifMLEPg5BGLqs2fpLu0MQPezIdyHc9CAbI+tPfDR8J64sjf 83bPhvKktY70YKCX+2OKsG6WbLofBO0IaL2FvmnJFv9Ntf0qziMKCFgw8i/HS7jape0e/dDbDqAXd gO+a6igffq2m5Q==; Original-Received: from auth2-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.228]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ouI0I-0001pm-Sx; Sun, 13 Nov 2022 13:46:50 -0500 Original-Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailauth.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE4C927C0054; Sun, 13 Nov 2022 13:46:50 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 13 Nov 2022 13:46:50 -0500 X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvgedrgedtgdduudekucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhephffvvefujgffkfhffgggtgesthdtredttdertdenucfhrhhomhepfdflohhh nhcuhghivghglhgvhidfuceojhhohhhnfiesghhnuhdrohhrgheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvg hrnheptddtgfehvdekueejfeeuveejuefggfduveekleelheehleejleevfeelgeehteeh necuffhomhgrihhnpehnvgifrghrthhishgrnhhsrdgtohhmnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuih iivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepjhhohhhnfidomhgvshhmthhprghu thhhphgvrhhsohhnrghlihhthidqieekjeektdelgeegqddujeejheefkeduiedqjhhohh hnfieppehgnhhurdhorhhgsehnvgifrghrthhishgrnhhsrdgtohhm X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: ib64945b7:Fastmail Original-Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Sun, 13 Nov 2022 13:46:50 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (xenodasein's message of "Sun, 13 Nov 2022 19:12:03 +0100 (CET)") Mail-Followup-To: xenodasein--- via "Emacs development discussions." , Eli Zaretskii , xenodasein@tutanota.de X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:299748 Archived-At: >>>>> "Edd" == Emacs development discussions writes: Edd> How integrated is it with custom, package, etc? This is exactly the kind of thinking I was hoping for in suggestion the move to core. Yes, yes and yes! Integration, documentation, the ability for users to resolve their own issues (for example, making macro expansion easier to do for use-package), these do need more thought and care. -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2