From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?Gerd_M=C3=B6llmann?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes, people want to use cl-lib? Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2023 14:37:14 +0100 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6757"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: emacs-devel To: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 03 14:38:17 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qyuNM-0001dW-U1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2023 14:38:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qyuMT-0007Ob-IS; Fri, 03 Nov 2023 09:37:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qyuMS-0007O5-2x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2023 09:37:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wm1-x32c.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::32c]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qyuMQ-0005rs-HE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2023 09:37:19 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wm1-x32c.google.com with SMTP id 5b1f17b1804b1-4079ed65582so16286995e9.1 for ; Fri, 03 Nov 2023 06:37:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1699018636; x=1699623436; darn=gnu.org; h=mime-version:user-agent:message-id:date:references:in-reply-to :subject:cc:to:from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=4V0kagH6ddchourIRkydEP0hG51gyihd08vpL2vt6lM=; b=Emw+GCelHqa4f+dUFFp9UtSY6Z59akqARFWIv0SbLg0lC/h157LRYMgPgC4TdlAgSZ uc5UvLAOJBi5cFAf1+ulqf2ndsigka16ilGCj4Zt0a+WOY8dH18+BrQuFSc5+Em+AvD/ DTDQRXwE+aD3rAcuZonPPBmYxXvoxQEHJ92MumgOdcIMVdwLv5Eo4aQA31BwMvZsILxp dAzHjjmO1qybGaPX7UA7PytoDCBgTZprQErAhu7wUgwWmmntUVD1HPl1iSWwFdRS5lUf 5lP7HzdBXTvntNoEoq5ja402LluGFjiFI+XWVupNcTiZU6sCtmZ1HnMiUwePqSgkTkzL GTLw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1699018636; x=1699623436; h=mime-version:user-agent:message-id:date:references:in-reply-to :subject:cc:to:from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=4V0kagH6ddchourIRkydEP0hG51gyihd08vpL2vt6lM=; b=WSwodvgVxfjc9YxKFCQ+Om+xlFUj4FKG7auaHCMR0M8ss4bbe2+Ieq/R7EcS1u+we0 Xrzc9QjCS4Mm2mfphIYWIdbaG2vwHDed0x3ezYWiLvdyrP4d0SEapDoTIBB+QVEt9Mzk DPQFgJUrrtHx/pXpinRObKJHrjx1hqProqb1o/kemk0Ue1w8K3vgzHaBh5JMhj/3nBBT KKyA5k6okkUnfTpTIzpc8zdQb18SaLYtUIeJe8RfxstPIKhdabfUnYrY7k0YazUq2F1j p9KfZ+v36+Yhx/y2XhE0wrUXDtU3ZGVpgspF5EVJ0ucOilovVzs3Fu9gxAZVEKLaI7lQ rZXQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzRt/m5GAOLB1V8e572Ci7D9rXAjQn47X4T+605vfBPCMERUUVo 3N2RPJaqR8fuUKjQX+QyMJpwIGqkv0Q= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IE7IVunEiVyG1DpxlEIVdgfZJhpMWG/lwjG2daLGX167TpiT8VEgkn/XhFmPpvmtkZHc4o13A== X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:19d1:b0:405:3955:5881 with SMTP id u17-20020a05600c19d100b0040539555881mr17087373wmq.36.1699018635867; Fri, 03 Nov 2023 06:37:15 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from Pro.fritz.box (p4fe3a0aa.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. [79.227.160.170]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a1-20020a05600c348100b003fe1fe56202sm2567953wmq.33.2023.11.03.06.37.15 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 03 Nov 2023 06:37:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez's message of "Fri, 3 Nov 2023 09:21:48 +0100") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::32c; envelope-from=gerd.moellmann@gmail.com; helo=mail-wm1-x32c.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:312162 Archived-At: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez writes: > So, why did I go for cl-lib? > > Honest answer: it looked fancy enough to make me try it and I'm always > trying to learn new things to keep my neurons active > > Mea culpa, /PA The reason I will not use seq.el or map.el in the forseeable future is quite simple: I haven't ever needed an abstraction over sequence types using generic functions, and I never have CPU cycles to give away for free.