From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sascha Wilde Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Small patch to enable use of gpg-agent with pgg Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 11:26:36 +0100 Message-ID: References: <2cd46e7f0510031250u66ea1349yb437d539ce4027ef@mail.gmail.com> <2cd46e7f0510061541w73bb6a92wb6d22829b6e804ae@mail.gmail.com> <20051007100014.GB4850@kenny.sha-bang.local> <2cd46e7f0510071106k3d4d3e6agc36f16a37d8b6bc6@mail.gmail.com> <20051007214952.GA30235@kenny.sha-bang.local> <20051008103627.GA1218@kenny.sha-bang.local> <2cd46e7f0510081131h14e2bbeaga7f1a33ebd6347c8@mail.gmail.com> <2cd46e7f0510101415t76825ea7u9749fe23da54ce@mail.gmail.com> <2cd46e7f0510121647x3c51fb65pc883ed61f4e864ab@mail.gmail.com> <2cd46e7f0510200708x4640d1c2t50743cf439e52dd4@mail.gmail.com> <87pskfq361.fsf@latte.josefsson.org> <87zmjicv9d.fsf@latte.josefsson.org> <87irq6yrfo.fsf@latte.josefsson.org> <87slp9y15z.fsf@latte.josefsson.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1143109777 11077 80.91.229.2 (23 Mar 2006 10:29:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 10:29:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Katsumi Yamaoka , emacs-devel@gnu.org, "Daiki Ueno \(pgg author\)" , ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+m10904@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Mar 23 11:29:33 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FMN4A-0003je-RE for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 11:29:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1FMN44-0002K9-00; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 04:29:12 -0600 Original-Received: from nas01.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.39]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1FMN1t-0002K3-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 04:26:57 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by nas01.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FMN1q-0008Mk-OP for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 04:26:57 -0600 Original-Received: from ns.km1136.keymachine.de ([62.141.58.119] helo=km1136.keymachine.de) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1FMN1g-0003L4-00 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 11:26:44 +0100 Original-Received: from kenny.sha-bang.de (xdsln052.osnanet.de [212.95.113.52]) (authenticated bits=0) by km1136.keymachine.de (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k2NAQYM1023253; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 11:26:34 +0100 Original-Received: from wilde by kenny.sha-bang.de with local (Kenny MUA v.0409034.42) ID 1FMN1Y-0001QI-1I; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 11:26:36 +0100 Original-To: Simon Josefsson In-Reply-To: <87slp9y15z.fsf@latte.josefsson.org> (Simon Josefsson's message of "Thu, 23 Mar 2006 10:12:56 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -2.2 (--) Precedence: bulk Original-Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:62377 gmane.emacs.devel:51991 Archived-At: Simon Josefsson wrote: > Katsumi Yamaoka writes: > >>>>>>> In <87irq6yrfo.fsf@latte.josefsson.org> Simon Josefsson wrote: >> >>> Katsumi Yamaoka writes: >> >>>> Emacs 20, 21 and XEmacs complain to use of make-network-process >>>> which isn't available. To solve the problem, we may want to >>>> introduce it as dns.el does. >> >>> Do those emacsen support socket processes? If not, maybe we should >>> remove pgg-gpg-update-agent. >> >> Oops. ISHIKAWA Mutsumi wrote (in Japanese) in >> >> http://lists.debian.or.jp/debian-devel/200502/msg00007.html >> >> that Emacs 21 doesn't support the communication passing the UNIX >> domain socket. If we need to use it at all costs, we will have >> to use an external program which communicates with the agent >> process by way of the socket. > > I think it is too complicated. It is simpler to remove the function. > Sascha, what do you think? People who enable pgg-gpg-use-agent > manually might be expected to make sure the agent really is running. I would like to see pgg do the right think when ever it can -- could we keep it for emacs 22 and just not use it if its not available? How about testing for the emacs version, or availability of make-network-process? I'll purpose a more compatible patch later -- but I don't have the time right now, sorry. cheers sascha -- Sascha Wilde A conclusion is simply the place where someone got tired of thinking.