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[76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ah10sm18162779pad.23.2016.01.23.12.06.42 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 23 Jan 2016 12:06:42 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id C7375128CA692; Sat, 23 Jan 2016 12:06:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Barry Fishman's message of "Sat, 23 Jan 2016 12:09:50 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) Mail-Followup-To: Barry Fishman , emacs-devel@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::229 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:198655 Archived-At: >>>>> Barry Fishman writes: > If this does not fit how Emacs development works, OK. Its just an idea, and > I though worth consideration. I think Emacs has always been great software, > and I certainly don't want to adversely effect that. Hi Barry, I like your suggestion, and in fact it's what I'm more used to, but we also must choose a methodology that works for the Emacs developers. Since a few people have expressed the feeling that a 3-branch system would create inertia for them, we'll stick with a 2-branch system (plus feature branches) until it becomes an issue. It's still an open question whether we should be using emacs-X+master, or master+next, though. Our current activity is something of an experiment in that regard, since in my experience (having gotten used to "next" branches), I was unfamiliar with a 'master' that is periodically frozen with respect to feature work. -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2