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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254738 Archived-At: >>>>> On Tue, 8 Sep 2020 07:52:02 -0400, Boruch Baum = said: Boruch> I do think it would be great for emacs to include a curated col= lection Boruch> of sample init files descriptively labeled for use-case. I woul= d go Boruch> further and suggest that the technique of using an org-mode fil= e with Boruch> embedded code blocks as one's emacs init file be adopted as sta= ndard, Boruch> and be used for those collection of init files. That way each c= ode block Boruch> can be explained and annotated to 'new' users. Now you=CA=BCre just trying to get me to start rummaging through the garage for a pitchfork and some torches. There are experienced emacs users who manage to shoot themselves in the foot with such a setup, any sample init files should just be emacs lisp forms, with comments. That=CA=BCs the only setup that=CA=BCs almost guaranteed to work = out of the box. Robert