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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:312266 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: Can't say much about what you write before this. I wasn't there when seq/map, pcase, or other stuff, was added, but... > Could we replace all the cl-lib sequence function calls with seq- > calls, in core and GNU ELPA code? Seq is simpler and cleaner, so that > would be an improvement. We could keep cl-lib permanently for > compatibility for external code, but it would not need to be loaded > (into Emacs or your brain) very often. ...you are loosing me here. I'm still wondering what seq/map are good for in the first place. Considering something "cleaner" is just a feeling, isn't it? A feeling I don't share.