From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sam Steingold Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Lisp's future Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 08:24:50 -0400 Organization: disorganization Message-ID: References: <54193A70.9020901@member.fsf.org> Reply-To: sds@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1411129550 22078 80.91.229.3 (19 Sep 2014 12:25:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 12:25:50 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 19 14:25:45 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XUxFx-0000P0-Be for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 14:25:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57952 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XUxFw-00055H-RV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 08:25:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45972) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XUxFP-000555-O4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 08:25:16 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XUxFL-0006AC-Dz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 08:25:11 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:36292) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XUxFL-0005yO-0x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 08:25:07 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XUxFE-00007d-Qk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 14:25:00 +0200 Original-Received: from 66.9.135.66 ([66.9.135.66]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 14:25:00 +0200 Original-Received: from sds by 66.9.135.66 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 14:25:00 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 39 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.9.135.66 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (darwin) X-Attribution: Sam X-Disclaimer: You should not expect anyone to agree with me. Cancel-Lock: sha1:uhs2GOcSYKL9muQHuaHYIyN5/aY= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:174546 Archived-At: > * Stefan Monnier [2014-09-18 20:56:49 -0400]: > >>> * Stefan Monnier [2014-09-17 13:53:45 -0400]: >>> Of course, another issue with Common-Lisp integration is that we'd >>> want to figure out how to integrate the two languages. So, we'd need >>> to investigate what are the current incompatibilities. >> Running ELisp code in CL has been supported for 15 years. >> http://sourceforge.net/p/clocc/hg/ci/default/tree/src/cllib/elisp.lisp > > As mentioned when someone pointed to a CL-to-Elisp compiler, compiling > one language to another is actually slightly different from > integrating two language. I am puzzled by this distinction. When you load elisp.lisp into your CL, you can * load ELisp files, e.g., >>> (el::load "backquote") >>> (el::load "calendar") >>> (el::load "cal-hebrew") >>> (el::load "subr") >>> (el::load "help") * Compile them: >>> (cllib::compile-el-file "backquote") >>> (cllib::compile-el-file "calendar") >>> (cllib::compile-el-file "cal-hebrew") * Run ELisp code: >>> (el::calendar-hebrew-date-string) I am not sure what if missing. -- Sam Steingold (http://sds.podval.org/) on darwin Ns 10.3.1265 http://www.childpsy.net/ http://islamexposedonline.com http://americancensorship.org http://memri.org http://mideasttruth.com Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they AREN'T after you.