From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: CHENG Gao Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: bug#22145: 25.0.50; tramp and auto-revert tests hang on OS X Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 05:14:51 +0800 Organization: Royau.Me Message-ID: References: <87y4cqfdi8.fsf@gmx.de> <87r3ihfgkv.fsf@gmx.de> <87d1u16s8t.fsf@gmx.de> <87zix557k2.fsf@gmx.de> <87si2u4uek.fsf@gmx.de> <87mvsjzp1i.fsf@gmx.de> <87h9irz4t7.fsf@gmx.de> <83poxe35nz.fsf@gnu.org> <87wprlrwbk.fsf@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1452374130 28537 80.91.229.3 (9 Jan 2016 21:15:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 21:15:30 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 09 22:15:19 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aI0r1-0007Rb-Fj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2016 22:15:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43078 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aI0r0-0002WN-Qp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2016 16:15:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56102) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aI0qo-0002WH-HC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2016 16:15:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aI0ql-0000DI-6P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2016 16:15:06 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:53578) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aI0ql-0000Cq-0r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2016 16:15:03 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aI0qj-0007E1-7t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2016 22:15:01 +0100 Original-Received: from 122.96.23.174 ([122.96.23.174]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 09 Jan 2016 22:15:01 +0100 Original-Received: from chenggao by 122.96.23.174 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 09 Jan 2016 22:15:01 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 21 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 122.96.23.174 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Jfwp7sj8YpJVPLD05wJqHFUuKmI= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:197936 Archived-At: *On Sat, 09 Jan 2016 13:05:11 -0800 * Also sprach John Wiegley : >>>>>> Richard Stallman writes: > >> A nonfree program tramples the freedom of those who use it. If we were >> running MacOS on a computer, it would take away our freedom. Of course, we >> don't do that. > > One thing we should clarify: Mac OS X is Darwin + some proprietary libraries. > > Darwin is free/libre software, and all its source code is downloadable[1]. > This is how the Nix project on Mac is able to be so self-contained. I don't mean to intrude in discussion, though it's entirely off-topic. Please forgive me. Thank you John. I know NixOS by name but no more, from your message I got to know Nix that can handle package on MacOSX. Seems good. Thank you for let me know this. Besides I keep on eyes on Guix, and hope someday it can be a PM under MacOSX.