From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Pluim Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Default emacs init file location confusion Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2020 19:03:32 +0100 Message-ID: References: <834kx7cgmh.fsf@gnu.org> <87tv56bjop.fsf@gmail.com> <539DBEA2-E758-4CB0-B886-F908CF0525B6@gnu.org> <83pnfuaqj3.fsf@gnu.org> <83imllc3iq.fsf@gnu.org> <87eew9q4rt.fsf@windriver.com> <83h815c26h.fsf@gnu.org> <83ftgpc0m1.fsf@gnu.org> <3939FE11-9C5E-40C8-98F7-FA3C3A8A0A15@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="222731"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: lokedhs@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, matthewzmd@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, smartlitchi@gmail.com, Eli Zaretskii To: Yuan Fu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 08 19:04:58 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ipFgz-000Skm-AT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2020 19:04:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47610 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ipFgy-0008Lg-24 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2020 13:04:28 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57507) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ipFg9-0007Zn-Ue for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2020 13:03:38 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ipFg8-0007vV-TR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2020 13:03:37 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wm1-x336.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::336]:40657) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ipFg7-0007sv-4t; Wed, 08 Jan 2020 13:03:35 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wm1-x336.google.com with SMTP id t14so3488161wmi.5; Wed, 08 Jan 2020 10:03:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lRo9aKBd/BBXISL8wnZz90345NL4MG3Rgx9BMXMJgcQ=; b=oBbORJTjskBtv6Xz0yeuaMQGaFySVydvN660QEkmtitibl0ROVdO4/TRhwt/9wt+tp tG7Gu+nzOjAER8U/I9980oQTVCuQLaSD6cRtOiQZZjOmEgrMdV0tD/wRDiMznSBaxZno nNSLuUeM1YpI2OcE9bYfhMFVKKnNL5mf1G8XyX9xiAYq+b3erXv48vCw7kUA+Nr3CslT 2T+F75oy3WTiVuK806qwQgNFnBKktamC2IrRwL9bCQnWts+dt/fnpX+dy0x1BVOmzMZb 2vJnXdLzOnm5jnvIf3mLCdBGOndq32w4v6XZlAtaQGmjEk4ZFwQe89P6dPWFkaSx5zXK YXfA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references :gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=lRo9aKBd/BBXISL8wnZz90345NL4MG3Rgx9BMXMJgcQ=; b=d3opZRE6u+PvP5JS+VRdoA6tHS6y4ZHS6jVn0agjGojfJgOEaWtjBtjvlod4GzuO4V /a1gqOuVU1xirEdKLqCQwpyawcgn/hCcr7qTfju3f7yZOjTQDmUY2RKeleT8XGnYcztL 8Of/R81XlY4w/bgIYR2gBB6XsXTFA4AnBKp1Gi++vIkDQlz1AZpKaJiqVzF1MqGb8e1f 4xF9ZDXN2dGEKxm2SnNBK/jIgAnXjrx51oVO8Q9OHX69YkanshI6DfLrdHZ/kqe+C7ht CIbPCLa18LmyBUOj+yBnmmf1Vl4mV2nK52Lcohv+BHpLIoSq6BLnX/aM6bY1dTzAJXpY LlwQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWTPY8/sVyDRIDQtcYI+1FdINsxjqso+nA1lYHJLc0EzTMk3I29 AGbazcfJyr8l2utREJ6/k/s= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqy1nTQCkYWNFO0Dbmv0+xoqpwCrhZot/5vyBUt4x6KatwQj3IqOBT+54PhQzm8HZ2bin/ExwQ== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:5a0a:: with SMTP id o10mr5205349wmb.114.1578506614030; Wed, 08 Jan 2020 10:03:34 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from rpluim-mac ([149.5.228.1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x16sm4576352wmk.35.2020.01.08.10.03.33 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 08 Jan 2020 10:03:33 -0800 (PST) Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes In-Reply-To: <3939FE11-9C5E-40C8-98F7-FA3C3A8A0A15@gmail.com> (Yuan Fu's message of "Wed, 8 Jan 2020 12:56:00 -0500") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::336 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:244139 Archived-At: >>>>> On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 12:56:00 -0500, Yuan Fu said: >> It is, but 'use this new thing only if you create it' is pretty >> unsurprising as well, we=CA=BCre not going to stop using .emacs.d an= d force >> people to use ~/.config/emacs. Yuan> Why force people to use ~/.config/emacs when forcing them causes = a lot Yuan> of confusion? This confusion is corroborated by many people. And, Yuan> although ~/.config/emacs has some advantages, the location of con= fig Yuan> file is still a personal thing, it is not necessary to force peop= le to Yuan> change. ? I said: "we=CA=BCre *not* going to stop using .emacs.d", ie "if you do nothing, we'll keep reading stuff from .emacs.d" Robert