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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257209 Archived-At: >>>>> On Thu, 08 Oct 2020 14:22:01 +0000, Gregory Heytings via "Emacs development discussions." said: >>> I also didn't read the manual very often, because I didn't find it >>> easily. >> >> Can you suggest a way to make that easier for others in the future? >> Emacs> My suggestion would be to add links in the docstrings to the relevant Emacs> chapter in the Emacs and Emacs Lisp manuals. Three examples: Emacs> kill-line would have a link to (info "(emacs)Killing") Emacs> kill-buffer would have two links, one to (info "(emacs)Buffers") and another to (info "(elisp)Buffers") Emacs> call-process would have a link to (info "(elisp)Processes") Emacs> I think a link to the relevant chapter, as in the examples above, is Emacs> better than a link to the relevant section or subsection. With this, Emacs> users who follow that link would find more information about the Emacs> general context of the command or function, and not just a similar Emacs> documentation. Try C-h f kill-line put point somewhere on 'kill-line' in the docstring C-h S Now making that more widely known would help, I think. Robert --