From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ag Ibragimov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Elisp LSP Server Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 23:47:14 -0500 Message-ID: References: <16338bdc2497fc51c6fb6d54ab370bfb@webmail.orcon.net.nz> <87ee99dv34.fsf@gmail.com> <07cf50ddddb5a9556aa94201a7ac88c9@webmail.orcon.net.nz> <87r1d0562u.fsf@yahoo.com> <87r1cz7qcd.fsf@posteo.net> <87bl4367av.fsf@yahoo.com> <87fstf7kz4.fsf@posteo.net> <87o8814q1v.fsf@yahoo.com> <87r1cs9faa.fsf@yahoo.com> <87pmsa94k2.fsf@yahoo.com> > VSCode is less ambitious than Emacs, and is built on worse foundations. > That means that their development will inevitably hit a ceiling, whereas > ours won't. You are significantly underestimating that project, its goals, and its mission. Arguably, every single sentence here is incorrect. Besides, as an experienced programmer, you probably know: for a software project to achieve prevalence, technical superiority is not a prerequisite. > We might develop slower than them for various reasons, but > check back in 40 more years, and then we'll see who's still around. That's a foolish argument. I don't have 40 years. I'm losing my friends to it now. I'm pretty sure not a single one of them on the dying bed forty years from now would be like: "I..... regret... what I did forty years ago. I should... not have switched from Emacs... to... damn VSCoooo...." 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