From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Fleischer Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : Re: [PATCH] Package Installation in Tutorial Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2021 23:06:03 +0200 Message-ID: References: <864k7ro07p.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <835ys47pzx.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31006"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (darwin) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:fwE5wY40VSiTqy1vVwZKumid2JY= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 04 22:07:19 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mtcFb-0007wz-L5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 04 Dec 2021 22:07:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48150 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mtcFZ-00062e-OB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 04 Dec 2021 16:07:17 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38708) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mtcEY-0005KH-3W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Dec 2021 16:06:14 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:48056) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mtcEW-0007KU-2U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Dec 2021 16:06:13 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mtcEU-0006Si-A4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Dec 2021 22:06:10 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: 5 X-Spam_score: 0.5 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.5 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD=1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.248, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.248, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:280944 Archived-At: Drew Adams [2021-12-04 Sat 18:16] wrote: > FWIW, I agree with pretty much everything Daniel > has said, both here and in previous messages in > this thread, and with the way he's presented and > argued for his proposal. Thanks for the kind words. > The number of people who've provided extremely > valuable help, including outstanding features, > to the Emacs community, and who've given up > trying (or never bothered to try) to participate > in direct development of vanilla Emacs, is not > insignificant. It's dynamic. With the introduction of nonGNU we saw packages "coming home" and being available out of the box without the legal hurdle. One such example is magit. It's nice; you can think of melpa, nongnu, elpa and core as tiers for contributors' involvement. People do what they feel comfortable with in terms of time, patient and effort and EVERY contribution is appreciated, and made with love, as you said. -- Daniel Fleischer