From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sascha Wilde Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Enabling Transient Mark Mode by default Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:35:45 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87myq4saw1.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <878x1ov227.fsf@jurta.org> <878x1os6mt.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <47B39231.8010108@gmail.com> <200802151711.m1FHB3Y3008798@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200802171658.m1HGwQ4h011067@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <20080219085231.GA1032@muc.de> <200802190938.m1J9ccVg016565@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <20080219190127.GA1106@muc.de> <877ih0o9dx.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203528973 5532 80.91.229.12 (20 Feb 2008 17:36:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:36:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, lennart.borgman@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@jurta.org, dann@ics.uci.edu, storm@cua.dk, acm@muc.de, Miles Bader To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 20 18:36:35 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JRsry-00089g-OA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:36:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JRsrT-0003Kl-Rw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:36:03 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JRsrP-0003Kg-Va for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:36:00 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JRsrO-0003KT-9C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:35:59 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JRsrO-0003KQ-5g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:35:58 -0500 Original-Received: from mail2.sha-bang.de ([78.47.120.114] helo=mail.sha-bang.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JRsrG-00076L-Mg; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:35:50 -0500 Original-Received: from kenny.sha-bang.de (xdslx166.osnanet.de [82.149.181.166]) by mail.sha-bang.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA9AE563; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:45:48 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from wilde by kenny.sha-bang.de with local (Sha Bang MUA v.0711184.68) ID 1JRsrB-0000NQ-LK; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:35:45 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:52:32 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:89717 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier wrote: > > So, that's for my personal preference. As to why turn it on *by > default*, here are some reasons why I think it should be ON by default: [...] One important reason against it is, that it makes uses of the mark ring other than marking text very unpleasant. The manual starts section 12.6 with the example of using the mark to mark interesting spots in an buffer so that one can easily jump between them (in many cases this is faster than saving positions in registers and therefor very convenient). In such cases the highlighting of text between point and the last mark is distracting and useless. On the other hand (as you pointed out your self) in case you really want the marking (and the transient-marks semantics) typing C-SPC C-SPC is still possible and easy. cheers sascha -- Sascha Wilde : "Lies, was ich meine, nicht, was ich schreibe." : (Urs Traenkner in de.alt.admin)