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Rankin" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Improving aesthetics & readability of backquote Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 23:35:02 +1000 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="167862"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: mu4e 1.2.0; emacs 26.2 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 20 15:36:20 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hSiSh-000hJU-CN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 May 2019 15:36:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35896 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hSiSZ-0003kR-JH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 May 2019 09:36:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:55804) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hSiRe-0003a6-8u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 May 2019 09:35:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hSiRd-0006AB-8g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 May 2019 09:35:14 -0400 Original-Received: from wout4-smtp.messagingengine.com ([64.147.123.20]:34389) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hSiRd-00069S-3P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 May 2019 09:35:13 -0400 Original-Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEA813CA; Mon, 20 May 2019 09:35:10 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 20 May 2019 09:35:11 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=paulwrankin.com; h=references:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type; s=fm3; bh=53uljlV4ZCv3OrTGuHHDvnubHA W/aRD+mU7xGokHIyo=; b=TNmk5eaP5pK0J44240dP2X5xpup/629WIozf6EEEr4 3Pejp1l5Y8DrQU0/OqIitPPJcCNXP/C+xugGTMcRr48Wyx4LxeyXGnnajkwb0AYC WatyDQvCJxXMCzZhzhi7gR2CSeXQv7X5gNqlH1Hg1HXsFRLTfwlEuuZiGGtArXu8 fPLxUtGjuV25fyoZTx9YV3PSoO3vZpywqNQxBaHHj3TeRqHR+hGBl2jZRLyod427 mdba76XL24BvTl5hqsIagxPMVDh8liWEFUgJAZA8pbnrHLp4TiIvDhAyXzwb5N6o 3MovFtoBhOuEeWXqkyGzHo+SMAoCftf/S/n2vLGzme4Q== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=53uljl V4ZCv3OrTGuHHDvnubHAW/aRD+mU7xGokHIyo=; b=r6Az+x36O7L7wt7uc8YfJR TL3+AStzMXgoV9fBpWJttXzH8GkYayUb8VQb4q8hvofA/iqoOncTmcGfBLZohDAi JgE7qEOk3N5/bQMTfj55Gjuss1DmXl1aRPL530zdOrYCRm/EfiB78Pe6P89dlha5 2gW6u2n5yYT7NlLzG2MT4lPkPEF0NuoNxKiInjKEtAUjbZpou6RNm9gQqSJ+JGdZ 0LttiZxxuprlKRzxcjtQKNTTmTHG0y2ctucMtMqiSuwJDVYgUjeAqZL7H4/mb59Q aPE2DuxeSzeQ8TFYF/U8afBAdN3V5AiHwpo5XyN7zRckubSpIICFbuGxBNYdtmsw == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduuddruddtkedgieejucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhepfhgfhffvufgjfffkgggtsehttdertddtredtnecuhfhrohhmpedfrfgruhhl ucghrdcutfgrnhhkihhnfdcuoehhvghllhhosehprghulhifrhgrnhhkihhnrdgtohhmqe enucffohhmrghinhepphgruhhlfihrrghnkhhinhdrtghomhenucfkphepuddvtddrvddv rdduieegrddufedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehhvghllhhosehprghulh ifrhgrnhhkihhnrdgtohhmnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptd X-ME-Proxy: Original-Received: from localhost (unknown [120.22.164.130]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id E0B2D8005A; Mon, 20 May 2019 09:35:08 -0400 (EDT) In-reply-to: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 64.147.123.20 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:236792 Archived-At: On Mon, May 20 2019, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > I'm not sure this would really help much with comprehension -- > especially the (splice b) thing. That looks like a function > call, but > modifies the structure of list of the parent sexp, which is > quite > magical indeed. All Emacs Lisp forms look like function calls. > ,@b at least tells the reader "there may be something here > that's odd", > which I think may help comprehension. Are you suggesting that ,@b is easier to comprehend than (splice b)? I think that is a hard case to make. Try to put yourself in the mindset of someone just learning Emacs Lisp. -- https://www.paulwrankin.com