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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:258966 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Andrii Kolomoiets >> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2020 22:34:31 +0200 >> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org >> >> Alan, is it possible to make 'minibuffer-follows-selected-frame' nil by >> default? > > If this is because the other value produces bugs, IMO we should fix > those bugs rather than make them less frequent (and thus harder to > detect) by flipping the default value. It is not producing bugs for me, but changes behavior. E.g. in emacs -Q: 1. Evaluate (select-frame-set-input-focus (make-frame '((minibuffer . only) (left . 1.0)))) 2. M-x 3. C-x 5 o Before minibuffer-follows-selected-frame, the prompt stays in the minibuffer-only frame. On recent master, the prompt is moved to other frame leaving minibuffer-only frame empty. I can't report this as a bug. Just wondering why minibuffer-follows-selected-frame is set to t by default, potentially changing someone's expected behavior.