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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:325751 Archived-At: Andrea Corallo writes: > Gregor Zattler writes: > >> Dear Andrea, Gerd, ... >> * Andrea Corallo [2024-11-27; 03:52 -05]: >>> Sure if it's of interest: my idea of few things that helped a lot native >>> comp in gaining traction at time: >>> >>> - publishing simple blog posts summarizing and explaining the progresses >>> of the branch [1] >> >> Data Point: That got me interested. >> There were progress updates, so I >> visited the age rather often. >> >>> - native-comp being a feature branch, this clarified that the goal was >>> merging to master (IOW something which was probably likely to happen) >>> and that the branch was trackable by users. That's why I suggested >>> more than once this solution in the past. >> >> That and the instructions on how to use >> it motivated me to try out. >> >> In case of igc detailed build >> instructions would be needed (for me at least). > > Yeah that's a great point! For me building igc was not trivial. MPS > doesn't come with distros and the experience of compiling it from source > wasn't great, the instructions in the codebase were conflicting plus I > had to manually patch the codebase as OOB was not compiling. Finally > Emacs has to find it during compilation, otherwise I think it will > silently revert to the standard GC even if configured for it. > > Maybe some of this is fixed now I'm not sure, but these are all hard > barriers for users, clear and detailed instructions would be much needed > for a more spread use of it. > > Andrea Then, why not do it? Where would people expect to find that info? In a README-IGC or something in the top-level dir?