From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Binding M-n and M-p to forward-paragraph and backward-paragraphrespectively Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 10:49:15 +0800 Message-ID: References: <7C30351A-8431-44CA-BBEF-06AC0E509EBC@mit.edu> <3F8DEC90BBA94708866F7CC70C4D5067@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1302403780 11675 80.91.229.12 (10 Apr 2011 02:49:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 02:49:40 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 10 04:49:37 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q8kiX-0000zm-0j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2011 04:49:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57889 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q8kiW-00005C-B9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2011 22:49:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=41027 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q8kiS-00004z-63 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2011 22:49:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q8kiR-00014M-AI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2011 22:49:32 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:48052) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q8kiR-00013b-4N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Apr 2011 22:49:31 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q8kiN-0000xc-Dc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2011 04:49:27 +0200 Original-Received: from th041124.ip.tsinghua.edu.cn ([59.66.41.124]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2011 04:49:27 +0200 Original-Received: from sdl.web by th041124.ip.tsinghua.edu.cn with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2011 04:49:27 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 14 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: th041124.ip.tsinghua.edu.cn Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACgAAAAoAgMAAADxkFD+AAAADFBMVEUvT09qWs3/pQD///+J kUVcAAAAAWJLR0QAiAUdSAAAAAlwSFlzAAALEwAACxMBAJqcGAAAAAd0SU1FB9cBBwMLOd3veKQA AACuSURBVBjTldE9CgIxEAXgB+lEyFUC2wo5ikdZ8DSypxhMY7H9VuIVwlqkGRgnm59VsHGafIQ3 CZlAtmKIRaHETgYa12lqvEsPYKf8wXHsPGfqPaUM0g9aJPKFXkmNQmSDqwzz4Fpgpz+6WAPY2z5o uPJJpu0uypcl4nyCibMLQ8lCiVjayLoQvw5LsVKQuHPRR958HZbOcVsKeepcLxpByjycGvnKmY+c MBvrtyjfe0vmuLvdq/kAAAAASUVORK5CYII= User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3.50 (Mac OS X 10.6.7) Cancel-Lock: sha1:/dOQhX6r5l5Vx3nBGHztTeB2XBE= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:138339 Archived-At: On 2011-04-10 03:26 +0800, Drew Adams wrote: > No, that was true also in the other case, as it is in most cases where a binding > is explicitly only for _default_ behavior. > > That's the point: Some people _mis_understand, thinking that the existence of a > default binding means that the binding is in some way reserved. And as I > mentioned, the more a default key gets used commonly, the more people shy away > from rebinding it. Creating a default binding is not without behavioral > consequences. M-n/p always mean something for history navigation for me. I prefer Emacs leave those (global) keys alone too. Leo