From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sam Steingold Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Improving aesthetics & readability of backquote Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 12:14:44 -0400 Organization: disorganization Message-ID: References: Reply-To: sds@gnu.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="240298"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (darwin) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 22 18:18:13 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hTTwQ-0010Lh-GN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 May 2019 18:18:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47374 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hTTwO-0001Bq-UK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 May 2019 12:18:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59591) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hTTtE-00086C-Qg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 May 2019 12:14:53 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hTTtD-0003nl-Jm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 May 2019 12:14:52 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=57578 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hTTtD-0003ju-CW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 May 2019 12:14:51 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hTTtB-000wZA-6g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 May 2019 18:14:49 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ X-Attribution: Sam X-Disclaimer: You should not expect anyone to agree with me. Cancel-Lock: sha1:F/erf7cTzIC9wGwIL3R7+w22X1Q= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:236903 Archived-At: > * Paul W. Rankin [2019-05-20 13:03:21 +1000]: > > For as long as I've used Emacs Lisp, I've found the backquote[1] to be > ugly and unreadable, to the extent that I've gone to lengths to avoid > using it. Backquote is a relatively advanced lisp feature, mostly used in macros (which comprise a whole separate advanced domain). If you find backquote "ugly and unreadable", it is possible that you might not be quite advanced in your lisp skills yet. Do you really _need_ backquote? Do you write complex macros all the time? -- Sam Steingold (http://sds.podval.org/) on darwin Ns 10.3.1671 http://childpsy.net http://calmchildstories.com http://steingoldpsychology.com http://memri.org http://americancensorship.org http://think-israel.org When the building is on fire, evacuate it before twitting about it.