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From: Eshel Yaron <me@eshelyaron.com>
To: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	 Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	 emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: master 431f8ff1e38: * lisp/imenu.el: Support more values for imenu-flatten (bug#70846)
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2024 08:57:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1wmllq0xn.fsf@dazzs-mbp.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86msmj9adm.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (Juri Linkov's message of "Sun,  14 Jul 2024 20:00:37 +0300")

Hi Juri,

Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net> writes:

>>> Maybe then imenu--completion-buffer should try to get the text property
>>> from the end of completion?  Provided that completion--replace will keep
>>> some properties at the end instead of using insert-and-inherit.
>>
>> I'm not sure, I think that might work in some cases, but since
>> completion--replace also keeps the common suffix it may still suffer
>> from the same issue when going from candidate "foo-baz" to "bar-baz".
>>
>> Then there's the problem of what happens when you simply type the
>> candidate you want to jump to, without completion.  For example
>> M-g i imenu RET goes to the imenu function when imenu-flatten=nil,
>> but if imenu-flatten=annotation then it goes to the defgroup.

I forgot to mention that this also affects using previous minibuffer
inputs with M-p: the text properties aren't recorded in the history
list, so you get an ambiguous input that doesn't always take you to
where you went when you previously used that input.

>> What I would suggest is to ensure completion candidates are unambiguous
>> as strings rather than relying on text properties.  Namely:
>
> Unfortunately, that'd be a step back.  Maybe at least we could document
> limitations that annotations work only by selection.

Indeed my suggestion was to take a step back of sorts.  If it's too late
for that, I agree it's a good idea to document the known issues.
>
>> - Restore imenu-flatten to a boolean option: either flat or nested.
>> - If imenu-flatten is non-nil, prepend the full prefix to each candidate,
>>   like imenu-flatten=prefix does currently.  This takes care of
>>   disambiguating the candidate strings.
>
> It can't be boolean, because a more reliable replacement for annotations
> would be appending the suffix, i.e. by the new value 'suffix'.

That makes sense.

>> - If completions-group is also non-nil, then group candidates according
>>   to their prefix and trim the prefix in the group-function when
>>   transforming candidates for display.
>
> The disadvantage of completions-group is its too wide coverage.
> We should strive for more specific options where possible.

Right.  The advantage, on the other hand, is that you can toggle
completions-group on the fly in the minibuffer, either with
toggle-option or with a dedicated command.  The wide coverage of
completions-group means there's just one variable to toggle, always.

> Or better: let's enable groups by category.  I don't know why we have
> such a glaring omission that groups still can't be enabled by
> category.  This should be simple to implement:

Doesn't the group-function metadata entry give enough control already?
If a category or a specific completion table wants to disable grouping,
it can simply avoid providing a group-function.  If it wants to enable
grouping, then it does provide a group-function, and now it's up to the
user's preferences which they express by setting completions-group.
Maybe your suggestion yields more flexibility in some cases?


Best,

Eshel



  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-16  6:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <171558357066.26019.9766615061719600757@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <20240513065931.0D83AC12C31@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org>
2024-05-13  9:22   ` master 431f8ff1e38: * lisp/imenu.el: Support more values for imenu-flatten (bug#70846) Eshel Yaron
2024-05-13 16:30     ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-14  6:08       ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-14  6:38         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-14 13:10           ` Stefan Monnier
2024-05-14 16:46             ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-14 20:58             ` Daniel Mendler via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-14 23:26               ` FW: [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-05-15 16:51           ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-15 18:03             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-15 18:30             ` Eshel Yaron
2024-05-16  6:08               ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-16  9:51                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-17  6:48                   ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-17 15:36                     ` Stefan Monnier
2024-05-17 16:43                       ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-18 15:12                         ` Stefan Monnier
2024-05-20  6:46                           ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-27 18:18                             ` Juri Linkov
2024-07-14  6:28                               ` Eshel Yaron
2024-07-14  6:53                                 ` Juri Linkov
2024-07-14 10:55                                   ` Eshel Yaron
2024-07-14 17:00                                     ` Juri Linkov
2024-07-16  6:57                                       ` Eshel Yaron [this message]
2024-08-07  6:51                                         ` Juri Linkov
2024-08-07  8:33                                           ` Eshel Yaron
2024-08-07 16:46                                             ` Juri Linkov
2024-08-09  6:59                                               ` Juri Linkov
2024-08-09  7:11                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-09 16:10                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2024-08-09 17:43                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-07  6:56                                         ` Completions group metadata [was: master 431f8ff1e38: * lisp/imenu.el: Support more values for imenu-flatten (bug#70846)] Juri Linkov
2024-08-09 16:16                                           ` Completions group metadata [ Juri Linkov
2024-08-14  1:41                                       ` master 431f8ff1e38: * lisp/imenu.el: Support more values for imenu-flatten (bug#70846) Stefan Monnier
2024-08-20 17:51                                         ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-14 15:26         ` [External] : " Drew Adams

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