From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: enriched-mode and switching major modes. Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 01:49:22 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200409042358.i84Nwjt19152@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <87llfn5ihw.fsf@emacswiki.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1095659384 29996 80.91.229.6 (20 Sep 2004 05:49:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 05:49:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bob@rattlesnake.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 20 07:49:31 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1C9H3L-0008C9-00 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 07:49:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1C9H9C-0005E7-Ry for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 01:55:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1C9H96-0005E1-SW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 01:55:28 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1C9H95-0005Dp-4H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 01:55:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1C9H95-0005Dm-1F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 01:55:27 -0400 Original-Received: from [206.47.199.163] (helo=simmts5-srv.bellnexxia.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1C9H3C-00014L-0e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 01:49:22 -0400 Original-Received: from empanada.home ([67.68.216.197]) by simmts5-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP id <20040920054717.NBKJ1635.simmts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@empanada.home>; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 01:47:17 -0400 Original-Received: by empanada.home (Postfix, from userid 502) id 621952F2D7D; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 01:49:22 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: Oliver Scholz In-Reply-To: (Oliver Scholz's message of "Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:07:05 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.3.50 (darwin) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:27308 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:27308 [ Note; I'm pretty happy with Emacs's current word-processing facilities right now and don't see any need for it to develop into yet-another WYSIWYG thingy, so I'm generally not too intereted in this thread, especially since I don't see anyone actually working on an implementation of what you're talking about. ] I just think that WhyzzyTeX is also an interesting design point: you get to edit the deep representation (which, AFAIC, is not "just the disk format" but is the format where I can expresss my *intents*, i.e. where I can distinguish between two concepts even if they happen to be rendered identically on the currently used output mode), while seeing the typeset output "on the fly". Stefan