From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: displaying 8bit characters octal sequences Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:12:19 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <16745.47326.410973.405187@tfkp07.physik.uni-erlangen.de> <16745.49453.600094.942187@tfkp07.physik.uni-erlangen.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1097504058 20206 80.91.229.6 (11 Oct 2004 14:14:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:14:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 11 16:14:08 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CH0wB-0000yP-00 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 16:14:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CH137-0005O0-Tb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:21:17 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CH11S-0004Wu-31 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:19:34 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CH11P-0004VG-K7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:19:31 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CH11O-0004Uo-Em for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:19:30 -0400 Original-Received: from [206.47.199.163] (helo=simmts5-srv.bellnexxia.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CH0uP-00084X-0i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:12:17 -0400 Original-Received: from empanada.home ([70.48.80.6]) by simmts5-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP id <20041011140948.VQEK1635.simmts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@empanada.home>; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:09:48 -0400 Original-Received: by empanada.home (Postfix, from userid 502) id A78813186AE; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:12:19 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: Roland Winkler In-Reply-To: <16745.49453.600094.942187@tfkp07.physik.uni-erlangen.de> (Roland Winkler's message of "Mon, 11 Oct 2004 01:09:33 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/21.3.50 (darwin) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:28229 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:28229 >> My crystal ball tells me you're using `standard-european-display' and you >> think that's enough to be in unibyte mode. Not so any more. >> If you want unibyte mode, you need to ask for it explicitly. > I am not sure I understand correctly what you say. No matter whether > I use "emacs --no-init-file" or "emacs --unibyte --no-init-file" > I will not see the octal sequences. Where does the > standard-european-display come from? (Normally, I always use --unibyte.) Duh, you're right. ..... yes, now I remember ..... someone changed the default display of eight-bit-graphic chars: in multibyte buffers it's as before (i.e. octal sequences), but in unibyte buffers they're displayed as you're seeing them (i.e. as which ever glyph your default font chose for those non-ascii chars). Kim did you do this change? I couldn't find mention of it in NEWS (looked for "unibyte" and "eight-bit") and don't know how a user can overrule this change. Stefan