From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Binding M-n and M-p to forward-paragraph and backward-paragraphrespectively Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 13:37:08 +0800 Message-ID: References: <7C30351A-8431-44CA-BBEF-06AC0E509EBC@mit.edu> <3F8DEC90BBA94708866F7CC70C4D5067@us.oracle.com> <394801A4-1E9A-4570-8B49-5B007F3F8866@mit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1302413869 15296 80.91.229.12 (10 Apr 2011 05:37:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 05:37:49 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 10 07:37:45 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q8nLE-0006Mi-95 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2011 07:37:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44990 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q8nLD-0000Hj-LN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2011 01:37:43 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=37506 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q8nKz-0000Gv-HM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2011 01:37:30 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q8nKx-0000aX-NI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2011 01:37:28 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:45252) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q8nKx-0000aN-GX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2011 01:37:27 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q8nKv-0006ET-AU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2011 07:37:25 +0200 Original-Received: from 114.249.204.95 ([114.249.204.95]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2011 07:37:25 +0200 Original-Received: from sdl.web by 114.249.204.95 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2011 07:37:25 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 14 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 114.249.204.95 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACgAAAAoBAMAAAB+0KVeAAAAElBMVEUAAAAAAP+LRRP0pGC+ vr7///+7mT1iAAAAAWJLR0QAiAUdSAAAAAlwSFlzAAALEwAACxMBAJqcGAAAAAd0SU1FB9cBBwMO DhglKe4AAAEsSURBVCjPbZNBboQwDEV/Cd4X9QJRThApmn0XYW+Jyf2v0m+HhqDBgiAe9rcTG7QH w/1Vn2Ar8gBb/ocywSN3qK9T3z4eFDB4eApocBpeBs1RSykoJd8gQcm8pGmHXFso3ajnmsqV0TnY DQkOfXUfN5NwaI7AWTVOyEhcu1aHmdWItHddUVUcUgUBCkitu8V6ditHVOVdqzl2EQ1ZVGTbdK0V 7cqn8vWzoU5Q/bF9Y/Y0cRU1xwkys5dJ+Dt6pBDWifcNQml8Gh2JVmPSoQzo7en0grswkxrUGYJ7 0hSxxAGr7ZMwYcHIzprpi7TENEE1xtiYxixRlCfPBsUUrwHD7uGIwATrbnODJcVrPpVn3hxiGloe m/S+z3CtuzUSMo83N4DPH+F0evwR3P4A2k+75838OKQAAAAASUVORK5CYII= User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3.50 (Mac OS X 10.6.7) Cancel-Lock: sha1:+O/UHVA6dTnGeof87ecOj9DEDFc= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:138345 Archived-At: On 2011-04-10 11:10 +0800, chad wrote: > As has been mentioned at least once, the minibuffer history bindings > are in minibuffer-local-map, not global keys, and would not work as > global keys. They are also in many other places. I like keys to have similar meanings in different modes or places. forward/backward-paragraph is a bit too different from history navigation. Anyway, I don't have strong opinion on this. Emacs already has too many trivial/intrusive key bindings. On the other hand, advertising M-n/p as global keys for users to customise might be better than provide default bindings. Leo