From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: random doesn't feel very random Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 07:22:38 +0800 Message-ID: References: <876288yh72.fsf@kanis.fr> <87wr0livd4.fsf@Rainer.invalid> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1346023377 16660 80.91.229.3 (26 Aug 2012 23:22:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 23:22:57 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 27 01:22:59 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1T5mAV-0000Gk-0a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 01:22:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51038 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T5mAS-00017e-VU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 19:22:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36471) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T5mAQ-00017S-3R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 19:22:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T5mAP-0004xO-5o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 19:22:54 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:48993) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T5mAO-0004xG-TS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 19:22:53 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1T5mAM-0000EA-M3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 01:22:50 +0200 Original-Received: from 123.114.41.178 ([123.114.41.178]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 01:22:50 +0200 Original-Received: from sdl.web by 123.114.41.178 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 01:22:50 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 8 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 123.114.41.178 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACgAAAAoBAMAAAB+0KVeAAAAG1BMVEUAAAA9Cgm3Hx1WWFWA gn+WmJWsrqv4+vcCAwCRl2MkAAAAAXRSTlMAQObYZgAAAAFiS0dEAIgFHUgAAAAJcEhZcwAAAYoA AAGKATOXMFgAAAAHdElNRQfXAQwDNR+ZJmElAAABIklEQVQoz22SPW+DQAyGWUq65qasd9PNUSX4 AZHK2C1rJy5jpDS4IwRVup9dn7GNafpKIPPgzztXFSujqq1eM2n8h22oMkvxI/i9C97kRfMRUN55 dS3BrsAwBXUtMLAO4lryh8kTjOxKpQNniNxAgZOEe4bZwsDTFhKdqZRLNII4OQNHhEuq/RMkm6Cj TnnEA/fk0BorcYn5qA3oaeAxbaBOLrX+9G48NZ2Fzc2tzDM8Q+tMypEOqYHh8mAWaaK3U/cDMOT5 aMZMABgPXc7zPMs1A8DXO756GFJ/4fMEq47hTsAdn5avoxZ4ywl0c2w4Flu2Ybeyb3S+EqxX2DYA H8veJGEDTnHnrXvRaPyt+2kSfK6rfBZ2tUtfP/mR+pR6sX8BUZ/cDV7tvkoAAAAASUVORK5CYII= User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (OS X 10.8.1) Cancel-Lock: sha1:2OICrvhjydtIgj8f47BKjnOTaPo= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:152854 Archived-At: On 2012-08-26 22:24 +0800, Achim Gratz wrote: > Given the widespread use of (random t) it should probably be made a > no-op and a separate API to provide a local state for application that > wish to control it for whatever reason should be made available. Agree. Leo