From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: describe-mode's treatment of minor-modes is annoying Date: 04 May 2004 09:52:03 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87wu3s96ru.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> <87pt9kz9vh.fsf@orebokech.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1083679129 3867 80.91.224.253 (4 May 2004 13:58:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 13:58:49 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Tue May 04 15:58:39 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BL0RT-0007Ao-00 for ; Tue, 04 May 2004 15:58:39 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BL0RS-0000aa-00 for ; Tue, 04 May 2004 15:58:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BL0Qd-0001PY-OK for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Tue, 04 May 2004 09:57:47 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BL0QL-0001PE-MP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 May 2004 09:57:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BL0L7-0000QL-B1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 May 2004 09:52:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [206.47.199.163] (helo=simmts5-srv.bellnexxia.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BL0L6-0000Q1-Q4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 May 2004 09:52:04 -0400 Original-Received: from empanada.local ([67.71.116.220]) by simmts5-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20040504135203.EXOF19539.simmts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@empanada.local>; Tue, 4 May 2004 09:52:03 -0400 Original-Received: by empanada.local (Postfix, from userid 502) id 2475617C6EF; Tue, 4 May 2004 09:52:04 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <87pt9kz9vh.fsf@orebokech.com> Original-Lines: 13 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:22707 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:22707 >> I think all that should be moved to _after_ the major mode description, >> with a single-line hyper link at the beginning of the buffer that jumps >> there. > I second that; the new behavior is annoying as hell. Well, I don't know about hell, but I agree in the sense that I find it unhelpful. Maybe we should not only move the minor mode summary to after the major mode, but also split the minor mode summary into buffer-local minor modes vs global minor modes. Stefan