From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New features in windowing Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 19:02:40 +0800 Message-ID: References: <4F683847.2010301@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1332241395 4571 80.91.229.3 (20 Mar 2012 11:03:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 11:03:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 20 12:03:13 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S9wqP-0006ll-LP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Mar 2012 12:03:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48409 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S9wqP-0000yF-1T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Mar 2012 07:03:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37059) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S9wqH-0000xR-IA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Mar 2012 07:03:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S9wqA-0003t6-TD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Mar 2012 07:03:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-iy0-f169.google.com ([209.85.210.169]:40849) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S9wqA-0003sh-Lf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Mar 2012 07:02:58 -0400 Original-Received: by iajr24 with SMTP id r24so13195961iaj.0 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2012 04:02:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:face:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=9WHyHKcYDbha9Lvqq8uWOr8v/l9m/aVRkfNfK9nJNFQ=; b=ArFJw7x9wGSkGbKkcSXznFEw2Ht3D0jstXvtJKPFtU5TzRg4oDo7hKCO/sXV9wCBpg kDtm+vcQFcCBdVMBOjFHFdzk9l2czTQVbj6zrLq+afop3wqASaMF2ZjZ34r5zVxhqSjZ +MEmqclU9qlJ2PqK/VR0n24SKP+ary5bepCjTsAX1zbnhkJK5w3EDGVd9tF7CRhu9qi6 p1RxhwpQr2Lc2JuziMGM8l/pvsd0pro73FqBuZNcCzW1Q9dDpFEwcVgFJxc8ixthAS40 AxxqY5s82qNMypQnxHaij6bUgTpfzEE8O53D3WOqcdaYhzvEOhPwLe95SDuhOCUvW/R/ 9Baw== Original-Received: by 10.42.138.9 with SMTP id a9mr8745781icu.14.1332241375942; Tue, 20 Mar 2012 04:02:55 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost ([114.249.196.3]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id vr4sm21074316igb.1.2012.03.20.04.02.48 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 20 Mar 2012 04:02:54 -0700 (PDT) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACkAAAApAQAAAACAGz1bAAABKElEQVQYlWNg3NIt5FDPUPt7 4+X79Qyucz5/ugik+L2PBgKpyphaIK921q23QDnG0NBQoMr/vaWl9f8ZLL78uPv5PwN7RETfzXoG jhmFz27XM0RXmpuY/WfY+fv0Mc56BvFybfXA/wwL5t/wF61n2PU59axXPcOVzbmSW/8zrNt1benC /ww70hqUU/4zKCtrT9jwn8FhwynbufUMendE2aLqGRpdX9al1zM8eh17lKeeQcTMrdD5P8P3j/YT Q/8zXHSb7p1Qz/C4OM2JuZ7hgtI7K6AjqsMnf8j4z8C6xG1tw3+GqpqvsVn/GTzmpD9j/8/wP/oZ S/l/Bka+QO/g/wy15ueeFQL9N1O8mPU/g+umV3t1gdT0/1bTgHLqYVeXAlWKpMWt+w8Az82C9nHf X0cAAAAASUVORK5CYII= In-Reply-To: <4F683847.2010301@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Tue, 20 Mar 2012 08:56:55 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.94 (Mac OS X 10.6.8) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.210.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:149141 Archived-At: On 2012-03-20 15:56 +0800, martin rudalics wrote: >> I am playing with the new features in windows (as in emacs). I found >> some window-parameters aren't documented such as window-side and >> window-atom. > > Hopefully they will make it into Emacs 24.2. Do you mean those features are yet to be implemented? BTW, they were mentioned in the elisp info file. >> I tried to make a speedbar-window-mode i.e. embed the speedbar buffer in >> a frame unlike speedbar-frame-mode which uses a separate frame. I want >> the speedbar window to stay on screen without being deleted by >> delete-window and the like. > > What precisely do you mean here? `delete-window' should, in principle, > delete its argument (unless it has a special `delete-window' parameter). Let me use this for illustration: ______________________________________ | ______ ____________________________ | || || __________________________ || || ||| ||| || ||| ||| || ||| ||| || |||____________W4____________||| || || __________________________ || || ||| ||| || ||| ||| || |||____________W5____________||| ||__W2__||_____________W3_____________ | |__________________W1__________________| If I put speedbar buffer in W2, I want those window operations to think as if W3 is the ``frame root window''. So for example, C-x 1 should not delete W2. C-x 0 should never have W2 occupy the whole frame. Is this currently possible? >> Any idea whether the new features in >> windowing can handle this without advising a bunch of functions? Thanks. > > The basic idea is to do what you want without any advising. Meanwhile I > have revised the assignment of side window parameters to handle window > configuration management easier but I don't intend to incoporate these > changes in 24.1. If you want to use them, I can send you a bundle or a > separate file. (BTW, it would be nice if someone wrote code in order to > handle > 1 speedbar buffers simultaneously.) > > martin Unfortunately that would mean difficulty to try it out but I guess I can wait until 24.1 is released. Leo