From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: 2 character comment starter bug Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:03:57 -0500 Message-ID: References: <7D10EFE37E7CBF4288CAFDFAD3C7932C3466E5@msgswbmnmsp04.wellsfargo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1111669721 4240 80.91.229.2 (24 Mar 2005 13:08:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:08:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 24 14:08:41 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DES49-00043b-2D for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:08:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DESGd-0007ut-Ed for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:20:55 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DESFU-0007qj-Rj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:19:44 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DESFT-0007pY-F5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:19:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DESFT-0007p6-CI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:19:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [206.47.199.166] (helo=simmts8-srv.bellnexxia.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DES0D-0008N3-VD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:03:58 -0500 Original-Received: from empanada.home ([70.49.83.30]) by simmts8-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP id <20050324130357.XUOC1623.simmts8-srv.bellnexxia.net@empanada.home>; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:03:57 -0500 Original-Received: by empanada.home (Postfix, from userid 502) id 37FA148A319; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:03:58 -0500 (EST) Original-To: "Bielawski, Richard G." In-Reply-To: <7D10EFE37E7CBF4288CAFDFAD3C7932C3466E5@msgswbmnmsp04.wellsfargo.com> (Richard G. Bielawski's message of "Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:28:42 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (darwin) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:35091 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:35091 >> But does it matter in such a case whether it has punctuation syntax or >> symbol syntax? Do you also give symbol syntax to the / >> directory separator as well? > A / is an illegal character in any part of a filename on this system. > In this language / / are most often seen as paired delimiters. Then, what about !, @, #, $, %, ^, &, *, _, +, ,, <, > ., ?, :, ;, |, ... ? > [#set foo [bar]] and [#set foo [#compute bar + 1]] would be required > to accomplish the operations your examples seem to describe. > If I see ':=' in this language I would almost certainly want it > treated as a word. Let me ask the question more directly, then: is "foo=bar" one token or three? > In this language == always begins a comment no matter where it is > found unless a ~ precedes it. There are no exceptions. Yes, you made that clear in your original message. >> The current behavior is buggy (it doesn't behave consistently between >> things like forward-sexp, backward-sexp, and parse-partial-sexp). >> >> But before someone can convince me to try and fix these bugs, they >> should first make a good case that the way they setup their >> syntax-tables is well thought out. > If the fact that the problem exists reflects the standard by > which `well thought out' is measured you're being a pushover. I don't understand this paragraph, sorry. But just to make it clear: if you read my above text, you'll note that I do not claim these are not bugs and/or shouldn't be fixed. > If it will remain this way for any length of time though, I do > think it should be documented somewhere. Even if only on a known > problems list. Patches welcome, Stefan