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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:281797 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > > But why don't you customize that variable if you dislike the redraws > and OTOH don't have the problem with garbled displays? Yes, I know. I suppose there's a lot of variability in the implementation quality of terminals, so this default cannot be changed. I don't use terminal Emacs a lot, but I always thought the flickering was a bug or a poor implementation somewhere, because I didn't experience the same flickering effect in other terminal-based text editors.