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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:263061 Archived-At: On 2021-01-14 22:10 +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > That's not the only reason, but I think for code that exists for a > long time the reasons are no longer relevant. The code was written > like that back then, and we should only change it if we have a good > reason. I don't see such a good reason in this case, and without > that such changes are a needless churn with no benefits. +1