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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254821 Archived-At: Ergus writes: > > Maybe we don't need them fully but at least a part of their > functionalities could be inserted in packages.el? Despite the name, use-package is not very related to what package.el does, so it may be accepted into Emacs, but as its own package. As a first step, someone should write a proposal that describes in detail the concept of "profile", what it'll entail, and how it'll help existing Emacs users and developers. With the help of the experienced Emacs developers in this ML, I'm sure we could come up with a technical design for the feature, that works on top of the existing Emacs architecture. -- Daniel Mart=C3=ADn