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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:263086 Archived-At: On 2021-01-15 14:09 +0200, Dmitry Gutov wrote: > Consider that, when a piece of code is implemented in Lisp, it's > easier for us "mere mortals" to find it, read, understand and debug > it. Even more so when it comes to people outside of emacs-devel. Eli is not against more elisp. In fact he encourages it. His principle is for C code that has been there for decades and is _not_ broken let us be cautious and make a clear case before moving it to elisp. There could only be good things following this principle.