From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Robert J. Chassell" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: always put Customizations in `custom-file', never in `user-init-file' Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 03:02:45 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: Reply-To: bob@rattlesnake.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1197342181 7997 80.91.229.12 (11 Dec 2007 03:03:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 03:03:01 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 11 04:03:09 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J1vOl-0000OV-BR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 04:03:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J1vOT-0003Sb-Ez for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:02:49 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J1vOP-0003SK-Nn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:02:45 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J1vOP-0003S6-1o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:02:45 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J1vOO-0003S2-To for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:02:44 -0500 Original-Received: from cpe-69-204-164-144.nycap.res.rr.com ([69.204.164.144] helo=rattlesnake.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J1vOO-0008FX-Cg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:02:44 -0500 Original-Received: by rattlesnake.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.115) Tue, 11 Dec 2007 03:02:45 +0000 (UTC) In-reply-to: X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:85022 Archived-At: The entire `custom-file' is generally not intended to be edited by a user ... Over the past 30 years or so, one of the great advantages of Emacs has been its easy and built-in programming. Whether an expert user or new user, everyone not only has been able to learn but has been encouraged to learn. As far as I am concerned -- especially since I am not an expert programmer -- that makes Emacs better than other window managers with editing libraries. I agree, faces and fonts are confusing. At least, I am confused by them. For me, it is worth making them simple to set. Thus, regarding faces, it is easy to see and change, and change again (and perhaps again and again) by modifying (custom-set-faces '(bold ((t (:background "DodgerBlue4" :foreground "coral1")))) ... Moreover, it is easier for me to remember the name of one customization file, a .emacs file, than two. -- Robert J. Chassell GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8 bob@rattlesnake.com bob@gnu.org http://www.rattlesnake.com http://www.teak.cc