From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Robert J. Chassell" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: customize-set-(value|variable) [was: apropos commandsforcommands, user options, all functions, all variables] Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:32:52 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: Reply-To: bob@rattlesnake.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1194899588 19527 80.91.229.12 (12 Nov 2007 20:33:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:33:08 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 12 21:33:10 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Irfy1-0000NA-V0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:33:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Irfxp-00007i-GG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:32:57 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Irfxm-00007d-S2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:32:54 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Irfxl-00007R-Aj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:32:54 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Irfxl-00007O-7C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:32:53 -0500 Original-Received: from cpe-69-204-164-144.nycap.res.rr.com ([69.204.164.144] helo=rattlesnake.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Irfxk-0000s6-Pk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:32:52 -0500 Original-Received: by rattlesnake.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.115) Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:32:52 +0000 (UTC) In-reply-to: X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:83082 Archived-At: I don't use `M-:' each time I want to evaluate an expression. I do use an init file. Why do you assume otherwise? Because you said, "much handier than using `setq' with `M-:'". I agree, "There is no one way to use Emacs." Put another way, the customise functions modify .emacs without the novice (or a more experienced person) necessarily learning the Emacs Lisp that underlies the modification. I agree, different people use Emacs differently. But the hope still is that just about everyone will learn to set variables, write simple defuns in their .emacs -- that sort of thing. It is like the adaptation to cars, which Americans made several generations ago: everyone has to learn to drive on the correct side of the road because many drivers cannot avoid a collision if you do not. -- Robert J. Chassell GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8 bob@rattlesnake.com bob@gnu.org http://www.rattlesnake.com http://www.teak.cc