* dot-files
@ 2007-09-07 11:04 Robert J. Chassell
2007-09-07 12:23 ` dot-files Ted Zlatanov
2007-09-07 13:12 ` dot-files Stefan Monnier
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From: Robert J. Chassell @ 2007-09-07 11:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel
Calling dot-files `hidden' is misleading. They are used for
configuration. I like seeing them. That is why I use the default
value of dired-listing-switches "-al". As David Kastrup says,
dot-files `are supposed to be auxiliary data, not content'.
(I know there is an tradition to call dot-files hidden; but I think it
is and always has been a mistake.)
I have many more dot-files dot-files in my home directory than I
expected, 922 according to dired running ~/.* . That number includes
backups for files such as ~/.bashrc and files such as ~/.xinitrc-test
along with its backups.
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2007-09-07 11:04 dot-files Robert J. Chassell
@ 2007-09-07 12:23 ` Ted Zlatanov
2007-09-07 13:12 ` dot-files Stefan Monnier
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From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2007-09-07 12:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel
On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 11:04:12 +0000 (UTC) "Robert J. Chassell" <bob@rattlesnake.com> wrote:
RJC> Calling dot-files `hidden' is misleading. They are used for
RJC> configuration.
By convention they are hidden from visual display by default on
Unix-like systems, and don't match '*' shell patterns (AKA "match
everything"). Why is it misleading to state this fact? Whether they
are used for configuration is the software package's decision and it is
also a convention to use them that way.
Emacs generally uses just a few dot-files in a well-known location for
configuration, so my discussion was about the surprise to current Emacs
users.
Ted
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* Re: dot-files
2007-09-07 11:04 dot-files Robert J. Chassell
2007-09-07 12:23 ` dot-files Ted Zlatanov
@ 2007-09-07 13:12 ` Stefan Monnier
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From: Stefan Monnier @ 2007-09-07 13:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: bob; +Cc: emacs-devel
> Calling dot-files `hidden' is misleading.
That's a possible interpretation, but I think it's not relevant to the
problem at hand anyway. Let's not get dragged into such
a fruitless discussion.
> They are used for configuration. I like seeing them. That is why I use
> the default value of dired-listing-switches "-al". As David Kastrup says,
> dot-files `are supposed to be auxiliary data, not content'.
Agreed. dot-files are used for meta-data. And .emacs-settings very much
qualifies as meta-data.
Stefan
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