From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Robert J. Chassell" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: CVS is the `released version' Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 19:08:23 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <2cd46e7f0705101124r72000f78xdf05d18ca815ca57@mail.gmail.com> <17991.47259.210100.801472@localhost.localdomain> <1179753516.46519c2c07a7c@webmail.freedom2surf.net> <4654579E.9@gnu.org> Reply-To: bob@rattlesnake.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1179947327 11604 80.91.229.12 (23 May 2007 19:08:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 19:08:47 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 23 21:08:36 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HqwCI-0007We-Ke for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 May 2007 21:08:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HqwCK-0001us-L8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 May 2007 15:08:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HqwCH-0001ub-N5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 May 2007 15:08:33 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HqwCG-0001uH-QZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 May 2007 15:08:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HqwCG-0001uD-KF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 May 2007 15:08:32 -0400 Original-Received: from cpe-69-205-32-54.nycap.res.rr.com ([69.205.32.54] helo=rattlesnake.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HqwCG-0007sB-7c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 May 2007 15:08:32 -0400 Original-Received: by rattlesnake.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.115) Wed, 23 May 2007 19:08:23 +0000 (UTC) In-reply-to: <4654579E.9@gnu.org> (message from Jason Rumney on Wed, 23 May 2007 16:02:54 +0100) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:71677 Archived-At: [regarding baseless litigation] The scenario you describes relies on the GPL not holding up in court. On the contrary, I am assuming we win, that the attacker goes into the process knowing he will lose in court. Again, nothing to do with package.el. That presumes that every package comes from a safe repository. I am sure that most will. But the goal is to make it easier to load packages. That has everything to do with package.el. All I am suggesting is a little caution, not a huge amount; that is a defeat. But no caution is risky, too. People I know, like me, tend to be on the less cautious side. I think that is a good thing. But no caution at all is foolish. Ah, you will say, nobody I know is that foolish! But there are people in our community who are -- that is the problem. It is much better to be friendly and to help strangers. It is more efficient. But we have got too threatening to those who prefer feudalism, with them on top, to permit foolishness. A little caution is a good idea. -- Robert J. Chassell GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8 bob@rattlesnake.com bob@gnu.org http://www.rattlesnake.com http://www.teak.cc