From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Robert J. Chassell" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: RMAIL settings [was: Re: w32 does not have emacsclient/server] Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 20:51:18 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: Reply-To: bob@rattlesnake.com NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1123448701 18832 80.91.229.2 (7 Aug 2005 21:05:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 21:05:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 07 23:04:56 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E1sJG-0003d3-3v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 07 Aug 2005 23:03:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E1sME-0000y6-Cj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 07 Aug 2005 17:06:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1E1sJR-00087V-9X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Aug 2005 17:04:07 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1E1sJC-0007xw-Ay for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Aug 2005 17:03:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E1sJB-0007v5-NL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Aug 2005 17:03:49 -0400 Original-Received: from [69.168.108.225] (helo=rattlesnake.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1E1sKm-0005tr-EI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Aug 2005 17:05:28 -0400 Original-Received: by rattlesnake.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.115) Sun, 7 Aug 2005 20:51:18 +0000 (UTC) Original-To: Juanma Barranquero In-reply-to: (message from Juanma Barranquero on Sun, 7 Aug 2005 13:31:33 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:41667 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:41667 ... Or are you referring to the fact that I do use Windows? By providing resources to a government-enforced monopoly that restricts what people I know and what I can do, you hurt me and my friends. I suspect you do not do much hurting and that you try to compensate, but nonetheless, you are hurting me and my friends. That is why I become angry. Technology has advanced over the past half century. Things that you `cannot drop on your foot', such as software programs, have become easier to manufacture. Indeed, they have become so easy to manufacture that we do not refer to the duplication process as `manufacturing'; we refer to it has `copying'. If I worked at Toyota, it would not sound strange for me to say, `we manufactured another car'. But it does sound strange to say that `I manufactured another Emacs' when I copied an instance. Software takes many resources to write the first instance of a program. (And it takes many resources to buy a computer.) But it takes few resources to make copies. It takes huge resources -- very competent people, in particular -- to write and maintain Emacs. But it takes few resources to make another copy of Emacs -- so few resources that I did not think twice this morning when I updated my CVS. Software is a `high initial/low incremental' cost good. Law and social customs that apply to `high initial/high incremental' cost goods should not be applied to items with low incremental costs. But they are. Partly this is because of social and legal inertia. Partly this is because people don't know a better way to fund high initial costs. Many people do not think of companies reducing complementary costs, of consortiums, of trade associations, of universities, of governments, and (to go by Aristotle) of individuals' rising wealth as providing ways to fund high initial cost actions. And partly this is because those who profit from charging this kind of high incremental prices need not themselves pay the whole cost. I wish you would help more to change laws and social customs that apply to `high initial/low incremental' cost activities rather than support, even just a little, inethical laws and social customs. But I do not know you or your conditions; only that you are hurting me and people I know. -- Robert J. Chassell bob@rattlesnake.com GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8 http://www.rattlesnake.com http://www.teak.cc