From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Robert J. Chassell" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ChangeLog? Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 00:41:39 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <61k6osjqsz.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Reply-To: bob@rattlesnake.com NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1109896654 8424 80.91.229.2 (4 Mar 2005 00:37:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 00:37:34 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 04 01:37:33 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D70oh-0006CG-J1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Mar 2005 01:37:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D717l-0008RH-Cy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Mar 2005 19:57:01 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D717I-0008Lo-23 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Mar 2005 19:56:32 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D717G-0008L0-Ub for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Mar 2005 19:56:31 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D717G-0008Kp-Q8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Mar 2005 19:56:30 -0500 Original-Received: from [69.168.108.225] (helo=rattlesnake.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1D70t3-000295-14; Thu, 03 Mar 2005 19:41:49 -0500 Original-Received: by rattlesnake.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.115) Fri, 4 Mar 2005 00:41:39 +0000 (UTC) Original-To: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Thu, 03 Mar 2005 15:57:44 -0500) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:34157 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:34157 I gather the documentation contradicts this position. No, it doesn't. That was a misunderstanding. In Emacs, the approach we use is that all changes are listed in ChangeLog. Which ChangeLog? The Emacs CVS offers two ChangeLogs and in (emacs)Types of Log File the Emacs manual says When you use version control, you can use just the per-file log if you wish, or you can use both kinds of logs. ... So I originally used the smaller, per-file ChangeLog. Miles persuaded me to add a comment to the larger ChangeLog, which I did. Shall I change the documentation as I suggested to: emacs/man/files.texi Types of Log File When you use a version control system that provides a per-file log, you should use @strong{both} the the per-file log and the more general @file{ChangeLog}. This is because it is inconvenient or impossible for someone using a different version control system to access another version control system's per-file log. This policy is different from the past, when you recorded small changes in the per-file log only. Typically you want to write just one entry for each change. You can write the entry in @file{ChangeLog}, using the @kbd{C-x 4 a} command (@pxref{Change Log}), and then copy it to the log buffer when you check in the change. Or you can write the entry in the log buffer while checking in the change, using the @kbd{C-x v v} command, and later use the @kbd{C-x v a} command to copy it to the more general @file{ChangeLog} (@pxref{Change Logs and VC}). My hunch is that the current documentation is different than you thought and that the changed documentation says what you mean. -- Robert J. Chassell bob@rattlesnake.com GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8 http://www.rattlesnake.com http://www.teak.cc