From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Robert J. Chassell" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ChangeLog? Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 13:29:31 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <61k6osjqsz.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Reply-To: bob@rattlesnake.com NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1109683650 16094 80.91.229.2 (1 Mar 2005 13:27:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 13:27:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bob@rattlesnake.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 01 14:27:29 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D67P6-0000ff-Ca for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2005 14:27:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D67hf-0005z1-7I for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2005 08:46:23 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D67h8-0005wP-Ql for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2005 08:45:51 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D67h6-0005vA-Vp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2005 08:45:49 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D67h6-0005v7-S4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2005 08:45:48 -0500 Original-Received: from [69.168.108.225] (helo=rattlesnake.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1D67Rd-0005Al-M0; Tue, 01 Mar 2005 08:29:49 -0500 Original-Received: by rattlesnake.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.115) Tue, 1 Mar 2005 13:29:31 +0000 (UTC) Original-To: snogglethorpe@gmail.com, miles@gnu.org In-reply-to: (message from Miles Bader on Tue, 1 Mar 2005 07:48:27 +0900) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:33972 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:33972 You make a good point that not everyone uses CVS, so ChangeLogs produced by CVS are not so good. _All_ code changes (maybe not comment and doc changes) should have entries in the [big] ChangeLog file. This means we need to change the Emacs Manual. Currently, (emacs)Types of Log File says When you use version control, you can use just the per-file log if you wish, or you can use both kinds of logs. ... This could be restated as emacs/man/files.texi Types of Log File When you use a version control system that provides a per-file log, you should use @strong{both} the the per-file log and the more general @file{ChangeLog}. This is because it is inconvenient or impossible for someone using a different version control system to access another version control system's per-file log. This policy is different from the past, when you recorded small changes in the per-file log only. Typically you want to write just one entry for each change. You can write the entry in @file{ChangeLog}, using the @kbd{C-x 4 a} command (@pxref{Change Log}), and then copy it to the log buffer when you check in the change. Or you can write the entry in the log buffer while checking in the change, using the @kbd{C-x v v} command, and later use the @kbd{C-x v a} command to copy it to the more general @file{ChangeLog} (@pxref{Change Logs and VC}). -- Robert J. Chassell bob@rattlesnake.com GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8 http://www.rattlesnake.com http://www.teak.cc