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From: "Robert J. Chassell" <bob@rattlesnake.com>
Subject: Re: Getting more info on a variable in Customize buffers
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 01:58:03 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1CldxT-0004QRC@rattlesnake.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvllba9rnv.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (message from Stefan Monnier on Mon, 03 Jan 2005 15:39:10 -0500)

   Could you tell us why you want to know the face's name?

Yes, so I can check that a customize command did the right thing when
I look at the `custom-set-faces' expression in my .emacs file.  My
`user-init-file' is set to the actual name of my .emacs file, so the
command works on the correct file.

A customize command may write the file, but I do like checking it.
(Also, of course, we encourage non-hackers to do this sort of thing.)
And sometimes I modify the expression in my .emacs file.

   > Also, what is the equivalent command to `C-h v' (describe-variable)
   > for faces which are not variables?

   Huh?  Have you tried M-x describe-face?

That command does not offer an Emacs Lisp expression to put into my
`custom-set-faces' expression in my .emacs file.  It should provide a
name and an expression, somewhat like this:

    eshell-prompt-face 

    ((t (:foreground "Pink" :weight normal)))

(I.e., like setting `custom-unlispify-tag-names' to nil and then
pressing return when point is over the `State' button and then
selecting option #9, Show as Lisp expression.  Except that doing that
shows the previous value unless I `Set for Current Session' first; and
then `Reset' fails to take me back to the previous setting.....)

If the `describe-face' command did provide an Emacs Lisp expression
and were documented in the Customize buffer where a novice would find
it readily, then it could be useful.

(Incidentally, in addition to showing the lisp expression in a
appropriate field, the `Documentation:' field of the `describe-face'
command should tell one to use `custom-set-faces' rather than `setq'.
The `one' may be a novice or have forgot how to deal with faces.)

-- 
    Robert J. Chassell                         
    bob@rattlesnake.com                         GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8
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  reply	other threads:[~2005-01-04  1:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-01-02  6:41 Getting more info on a variable in Customize buffers Drew Adams
2005-01-02 13:27 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-01-02 19:48   ` Drew Adams
2005-01-02 20:44     ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-01-02 23:52       ` Drew Adams
2005-01-03 16:55         ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-01-03 17:13           ` Drew Adams
2005-01-03 17:20             ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-01-03 17:57               ` Drew Adams
2005-01-04  9:03                 ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-01-04  9:10         ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-01-04  9:26           ` Miles Bader
2005-01-04 10:16             ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-01-04 15:55           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-01-04 18:12             ` Drew Adams
2005-01-04 18:27               ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-01-04 19:50                 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-05  8:33             ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-01-05 17:50               ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-01-02 20:25 ` Reiner Steib
2005-01-02 20:34   ` Andreas Schwab
2005-01-02 23:52   ` Drew Adams
2005-01-03  0:35     ` Stefan
2005-01-03  1:57       ` Drew Adams
2005-01-03 17:39         ` Stefan Monnier
2005-01-03 20:45           ` Drew Adams
2005-01-04  9:46             ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-01-04 18:12               ` Drew Adams
2005-01-05  3:31               ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-05 17:31                 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-05 20:48                   ` Lennart Borgman
2005-01-05 21:43                     ` Drew Adams
2005-01-05 21:54                       ` Lennart Borgman
2005-01-06  9:06                         ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-01-06 15:26                           ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-01-06 20:23                             ` Lennart Borgman
2005-01-06 19:05                           ` Drew Adams
2005-01-06 19:55                         ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-06 20:30                           ` Lennart Borgman
2005-01-24 22:29                           ` Lennart Borgman
2005-01-09  3:23                   ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-04  9:24           ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-01-04 14:13             ` Stefan
2005-01-04 19:54               ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-04 20:39                 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-01-05 20:07                   ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-05 20:25                     ` Stefan Monnier
2005-01-06 19:56                       ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-05  8:48               ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-01-03 17:47         ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-01-03 20:39           ` Stefan Monnier
2005-01-04  1:58             ` Robert J. Chassell [this message]
2005-01-03  7:51       ` David Kastrup
2005-01-04  0:54         ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-01-05  3:31           ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-05  4:43             ` Stefan Monnier
2005-01-06  3:46               ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-01-06 13:43                 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-01-07  2:49                   ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-06 19:56                 ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-07  4:17                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-01-07 23:04                     ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-04  3:38         ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-03 17:28       ` drkm
2005-01-03 18:16         ` Lennart Borgman
2005-01-03 18:56           ` drkm
2005-01-04  9:49         ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-01-04  9:32     ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-01-04 12:53       ` Lennart Borgman
2005-01-04 18:12       ` Drew Adams
2005-01-03  0:58 ` Richard Stallman

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