From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Robert J. Chassell" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [NEW PATCH] mouse-1 click follows link Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 13:50:31 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <200410292354.i9TNsCq01994@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200410310034.i9V0YX903876@raven.dms.auburn.edu> Reply-To: bob@rattlesnake.com NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1103378051 8227 80.91.229.6 (18 Dec 2004 13:54:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 13:54:11 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 18 14:53:33 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cff1J-00070B-00 for ; Sat, 18 Dec 2004 14:53:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CffBV-0000UU-3U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Dec 2004 09:03:49 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CffBC-0000OX-Uo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Dec 2004 09:03:31 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CffBC-0000O9-47 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Dec 2004 09:03:30 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CffBB-0000No-VE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Dec 2004 09:03:29 -0500 Original-Received: from [69.168.110.189] (helo=rattlesnake.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cfeyk-0004K2-8Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Dec 2004 08:50:38 -0500 Original-Received: by rattlesnake.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.115) Sat, 18 Dec 2004 13:50:31 +0000 (UTC) Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Fri, 17 Dec 2004 19:20:00 -0500) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:31257 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:31257 When you write new documentation for `mouse-1 click follows link', please remember to tell people about Mouse-1 between the first character of a link and the previous, Mouse-3 between the last character of a link and the next, and Mouse-3 to paste the link i.e., mouse-set-point mouse-save-then-kill mouse-yank-at-click This is long established and useful since it works when a drag tends to bring in extranous characters. And copying links is common. As far as I can see, a problem sometimes occurs when people are confused by the position of point: with some cursors, novices think it is `on' a character rather than before it. In particular, people are occasionally confused by a `box' cursor shape that looks as if they are putting point `on the character' rather than between that character and the previous character. (After you learn what a `box' signifies, it becomes a good text cursor since it remains visible, but not irritating so long as it does not blink. On the other hand, a `bar' does not have the positioning problem, but is less visible unless it blinks, in which case, it becomes too visible for many. Setting a non-blinking bar cursor to another color fails on a black and white display, so that is not an option. As far as I can see, good documentation is the best solution.) Thank you. -- Robert J. Chassell bob@rattlesnake.com GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8 http://www.rattlesnake.com http://www.teak.cc