From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Robert J. Chassell" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta Subject: Re: Permission to use portions of the recent GNU Emacs Manual Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 19:14:38 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <87llc49kn1.fsf@floss.red-bean.com> <6.2.0.14.2.20041212125027.024c6900@mail.comcast.net> <87d5xbd4it.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: bob@rattlesnake.com NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1103138176 1421 80.91.229.6 (15 Dec 2004 19:16:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 19:16:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, andy@xemacs.org, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 15 20:16:06 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Ceed4-0002Lc-00 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:16:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CeenH-0007BS-5L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 14:26:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Ceemn-0007Ah-8L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 14:26:09 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Ceemm-0007AF-A9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 14:26:08 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Ceemm-00079u-5j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 14:26:08 -0500 Original-Received: from [69.168.110.189] (helo=rattlesnake.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Ceebu-00042D-9X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 14:14:54 -0500 Original-Received: by rattlesnake.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.115) Wed, 15 Dec 2004 19:14:38 +0000 (UTC) Original-To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" In-reply-to: <87d5xbd4it.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (stephen@xemacs.org) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:31170 gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta:17472 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:31170 ... Emacs is only part of my life, free software advocacy is only part of my life. But your choice of licenses does not take up much time -- less time than Emacs. You need choose once and then the licenses do the work. If you go by the default of copyright, you promote monopoly restriction; if you go by the GPL, you promote freedom ... but you need not spend your time being an advocate who acts. I prefer the simplicity of advocating ... These sound like actions you do. To me, the Emacs or XEmacs license is an instrument to enable sharing, no more, no less. Right. So you if you favor that kind of freedom, you will choose a license that enables it. You will not need to act beyond making the choice (and filling out legal paper work, getting your employer or university to permit you to do so, as needed). It does not take much time. ... It distresses me that licensing issues (and related legal flummery), however necessary, get in the way of sharing. Well, we do not live in a world filled with people who always want to share. It would be much nicer if we did. Please complain to those who have caused these bad laws and please, if you feel like advocacy, try to change them. In any case, please do not help the bad guys passively, when you can help the good guys passively (except for a fairly short time when you choose licenses and/or handle legal paper work that is imposed on you by the bad guys). -- Robert J. Chassell bob@rattlesnake.com GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8 http://www.rattlesnake.com http://www.teak.cc