From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Robert J. Chassell" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta Subject: Re: Permission to use portions of the recent GNU Emacs Manual Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 14:09:32 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <878y84t52h.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> Reply-To: bob@rattlesnake.com NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1103033488 16792 80.91.229.6 (14 Dec 2004 14:11:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 14:11:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 14 15:11:10 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CeDOQ-0007VN-00 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 2004 15:11:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CeDYW-0007E3-4E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 Dec 2004 09:21:36 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CeDXx-0007DK-Bk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Dec 2004 09:21:01 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CeDXu-0007Bl-EN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Dec 2004 09:20:59 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CeDXu-0007B1-2K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Dec 2004 09:20:58 -0500 Original-Received: from [69.168.110.189] (helo=rattlesnake.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CeDN3-0005Lj-39; Tue, 14 Dec 2004 09:09:45 -0500 Original-Received: by rattlesnake.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.115) Tue, 14 Dec 2004 14:09:32 +0000 (UTC) Original-To: David Kastrup In-reply-to: (message from David Kastrup on Mon, 13 Dec 2004 21:03:23 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:31112 gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta:17459 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:31112 ... with the electronic forms of the manuals, the GPL appears more appropriate to me. What specifically of the current form of the GFDL, as it applies electronically, do you not like? For example, I do not like the language in the license that talks of publishing printed copies. This suggests that `publisher' means only `printed copy publisher'. I would prefer to see the term `publisher' be more general. However, I do not know whether the term is necessary for legal purposes. My sense is that commercial restrictions should apply to those who publish using `non-recoverable or rivalrous resources',like spending resources to get attention, using printed paper, or stamped CDs. But I am not sure my language is right, either. (Note that technological change may decrease the cost of vehicles -- something may replace printed paper or CDs -- but nothing can reduce the cost of attention getting.) -- Robert J. Chassell bob@rattlesnake.com GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8 http://www.rattlesnake.com http://www.teak.cc