From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Robert J. Chassell" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Menu suggestion Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 12:57:13 +0000 (UTC) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87wu40vgds.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87y8ogprxt.fsf@mail.jurta.org> Reply-To: bob@rattlesnake.com NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1083159716 25619 80.91.224.253 (28 Apr 2004 13:41:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 13:41:56 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 28 15:41:34 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BIpJe-0000sW-00 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 15:41:34 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BIpJd-0005HT-00 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 15:41:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BIpGv-0001FI-5i for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 09:38:45 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BIpGB-0001Ed-Ho for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 09:37:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BIpFd-00018F-Ti for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 09:37:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.114.245] (helo=rattlesnake.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BIock-0002F0-Iu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 08:57:15 -0400 Original-Received: by rattlesnake.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.115) Wed, 28 Apr 2004 12:57:13 +0000 (UTC) Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-reply-to: <87y8ogprxt.fsf@mail.jurta.org> (message from Juri Linkov on Wed, 28 Apr 2004 08:55:29 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:22299 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:22299 > Not if you consider the time needed to move your hand to the editing > keypad. It seems you assume those monstrous 101-key PC keyboards. But that assumption doesn't hold for laptops where arrow keys are located very close to letter keys, and even on them when using a special key. I am writing this on a laptop. Even though the arrow keys are loced close to the letter keys, I still have to move my hand noticeably further than if I use Emacs keybindings. To use an arrow key to move one character right, I have to move my hand so that none of my fingers comfortably lie over any printable characters. To use `C-f', I move only my left little finger, and leave the rest of my hand where it is. -- Robert J. Chassell Rattlesnake Enterprises As I slowly update it, bob@rattlesnake.com I rewrite a "What's New" segment for http://www.rattlesnake.com