From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Robert J. Chassell" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Info enhancements Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:12:17 +0000 (UTC) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200312031942.hB3JgAw08783@f7.net> <87zne9ukl5.fsf@mail.jurta.org> Reply-To: bob@rattlesnake.com NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1070544387 14088 80.91.224.253 (4 Dec 2003 13:26:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:26:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: karl@freefriends.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 04 14:26:19 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ARtUo-0005Y0-00 for ; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 14:26:18 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ARtUo-0007uX-01 for ; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 14:26:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ARuFQ-0008W4-Mg for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 09:14:28 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ARuF9-0008Vg-2Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 09:14:11 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ARuEc-0008OS-CN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 09:14:09 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.114.245] (helo=rattlesnake.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ARuEb-0008Ny-Bg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 09:13:37 -0500 Original-Received: by rattlesnake.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.115) Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:12:17 +0000 (UTC) Original-To: Juri Linkov In-reply-to: <87zne9ukl5.fsf@mail.jurta.org> (message from Juri Linkov on Thu, 04 Dec 2003 09:07:50 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:18364 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:18364 > I must not have been clear. The format I meant is: > > * MENU-ENTRY-NAME: NODE-NAME. LINE_NUMBER. DESCRIPTION and Juri Linkov : I think that line numbers in index menus can distract users. Yes, they do. I found them very distracting when they followed the description and figured I would be much less bothered by seeing them in front of the description, like this: * abs: 147. Basic Arithmetic. * abs (vectors): 18. Vector and Matrix Arithmetic. * abssqr: 157. Basic Arithmetic. * accum: 20. Reducing. * acute: 55. TeX Language Mode. * add: 90. Specifying Operators. * afixp: 21. Nesting and Fixed Points. (Adapted from calc-2.02f-patch-1/calc.info-26 -- those are actual line numbers. Basicially, the descriptions are lined up, and I can ignore the line numbers easily. In Dave Gillespie's format the line numbers come after the description. With short descriptions they, too, are lined up. That is fine, except that many descriptions are not short, so the method breaks down.) You go on to say Even if newer versions of Info readers could hide them, they still will be shown by older versions. Yes. But what do you think about recording the locations of index entries in the tag table? The problem is, I think your fear: I hope this will not break older Info readers, ... If the suggestion does not break older Info readers, then I am all for it. But I think it will break them. Karl, what do you think? -- Robert J. Chassell Rattlesnake Enterprises http://www.rattlesnake.com GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8 http://www.teak.cc bob@rattlesnake.com