From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Robert J. Chassell" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: APOP support in movemail Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:58:50 +0000 (UTC) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <2914-Thu06Nov2003114247+0200-eliz@elta.co.il> <3405-Sat08Nov2003183910+0200-eliz@elta.co.il> Reply-To: bob@rattlesnake.com NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1068419087 28513 80.91.224.253 (9 Nov 2003 23:04:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 23:04:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 10 00:04:44 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AIybs-0003HR-00 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 00:04:44 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AIybs-0004yD-00 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 00:04:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AIzVU-0005Ab-VJ for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 19:02:12 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AIzV2-0004xZ-7M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 19:01:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AIzUO-0004fK-UZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 19:01:36 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.114.245] (helo=rattlesnake.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AIzTb-0004B5-P3; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 19:00:16 -0500 Original-Received: by rattlesnake.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.115) Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:58:50 +0000 (UTC) Original-To: David Kastrup In-reply-to: (message from David Kastrup on 09 Nov 2003 14:01:31 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:17738 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:17738 Could we stop playing semantic games? For some people Microsoft Windows is the relevant infrastructure they have to work with, ... Well, if that is what they choose, then please tell us. For those of use who choose freedom, `Windows' means the one that is our most common structure. ... Just like the street towards your house is relevant infrastructure to you which you are not allowed to modify. Right! And I do not tell you it is the `Road', I tell you that it is `Golden Hill Road'. That is its name. However, when I talk to people in this neighborhood, it is the `Road'. Similarly, I work in a software neighborhood of freedom. You may not. But I do. And many people I know do. I agree, when talking to people outside my software neighborhood I should talk about `X Windows' or `Fresno'. But similarly, when talking outside of your neighborhood, you should specify `Microsoft Windows' or `X Windows' or `Fresno'. Otherwise, you are being both impolite and confusing. -- Robert J. Chassell bob@rattlesnake.com 98A Golden Hill Rd. http://www.rattlesnake.com P. O. Box 221 http://www.teak.cc Lenox Dale, MA 01242-0221 USA +1 (413) 637-4277 GPG key ID: 004B4AC8