From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Robert J. Chassell" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: terminal escapes in Info files? Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:29:00 +0000 (UTC) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200310281746.h9SHk2915693@f7.net> Reply-To: bob@rattlesnake.com NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1067449675 8678 80.91.224.253 (29 Oct 2003 17:47:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:47:55 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 29 18:47:53 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AEuQD-0006yp-00 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:47:53 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AEuQD-00029S-00 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:47:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AEuL6-0005wf-R9 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 12:42:36 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AEu9I-0002Co-Ix for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 12:30:24 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AEu8j-00027D-AZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 12:30:20 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.114.245] (helo=rattlesnake.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AEu7z-0001SW-Ib for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 12:29:04 -0500 Original-Received: by rattlesnake.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.115) Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:29:00 +0000 (UTC) Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-reply-to: (message from Oliver Scholz on Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:24:03 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:17558 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:17558 Oliver Scholz wrote IIRC desctop environments like KDE or Gnome already use a browser for their “help desk” ... Yes, they do; and that means that their online help is worse than the online help I read in the mid-1980s. They have retrogressed a generation. Web browsers waste effort; you cannot navigate through HTML documents quickly and easily as you can with Info. HTML is one of the poorer designs. In addition to printed output and Info, Texinfo produces HTML output as a surface expression. This means that there is no need to make Info as inefficent as HTML. At the very least, please keep Info up to the efficiency of the 1980s. -- Robert J. Chassell Rattlesnake Enterprises http://www.rattlesnake.com GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8 http://www.teak.cc bob@rattlesnake.com